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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    That's almost as stupid as the "eyewitnesses" claiming that the cop was pulling Brown into the car window with one hand (as opposed to the alternative but more likely story that Brown was leaning into the car to beat the everlasting c--p out of the officer). While "small man syndrome" could certainly lead someone into stupidly provoking a confrontation with someone Brown's size, it's almost physically impossible to imagine someone of Wilson's size single-handedly pulling someone of Brown's size into a car window, particularly from the seated position.

    BTW, someone beating me in the face and trying to take my weapon would probably make me pretty mad too. Having them charge at me would make me even madder, probably enough to take the shots.

    While I leave open the possibility that Officer Wilson made a bad shoot, NOTHING in the storyline pushed forward by Brown's parents or the activists makes any sense. The storyline put out by Wilson's defenders thus far at least makes some credible sense.
    And the education of the American citizen continues: If you attempt to disarm a law enforcement officer, in any state of the union, that is a deadly force encounter. No gray area, no hesitation. If you fail in your attempt then you have two choices, get face down on the ground, hands and arms spread out like an angel or freeze in time and don't move, because the only recourse for the officer is to get you at gun point and defend themselves as best they can until help arrives. Mr. Brown obviously didn't know this and tried unsuccessfully to re-engage the officer, and was stopped with deadly force. No mystery, no story to tell here, no gray area. I hope the Grand Jury is educated by an expert in Use of Force and they make the right call.
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    So....are we going to get the verdict today, or are you guys just jerking us around?
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    Back to the video, at about the 14:57 mark I swear I see a guy brandishing a handgun... I could be wrong, considering it's not being filmed with a very quality camera.

    Since Pancho has all the facts and has decided Wilson is guilty, we can all go home and not worry about.

    The main thing that frightens me these days is the whole attitude that "a wrong has been committed against us, we don't care what the facts are, hang him!" Even if the investigation discovers that Wilson was 100% justified in this incident, the court of public opinion in that area (read: race baiters) are still thirsty for blood and will demand "justice." Every time I see one of these idiots demand "justice" I think of this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Back to the video, at about the 14:57 mark I swear I see a guy brandishing a handgun... I could be wrong, considering it's not being filmed with a very quality camera.

    Since Pancho has all the facts and has decided Wilson is guilty, we can all go home and not worry about.

    The main thing that frightens me these days is the whole attitude that "a wrong has been committed against us, we don't care what the facts are, hang him!" Even if the investigation discovers that Wilson was 100% justified in this incident, the court of public opinion in that area (read: race baiters) are still thirsty for blood and will demand "justice." Every time I see one of these idiots demand "justice" I think of this:
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    Doesn't Justice = Entitlement? I want justice NOW so I'm going to burn my local community to the ground and demand that someone else fixes it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Doesn't Justice = Entitlement? I want justice NOW so I'm going to burn my local community to the ground and demand that someone else fixes it!


    Ah, a student of the Rodney King Riots in LA...
    Exactly. You hit the nail directly on the head. They're not upset because a young black man was shot by the po-lice, they want an excuse to go out and beat people, break things, burn down their neighborhood, etc... oh and they don't want to be accountable for it, they want to blame it all on being massively upset, so they think they'll get away with it without any punishment. My question is, what happens when the Ferguson PD gets fed up and strikes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    They're not upset because a young black man was shot by the po-lice, they want an excuse to go out and beat people, break things, burn down their neighborhood, etc... oh and they don't want to be accountable for it, they want to blame it all on being massively upset, so they think they'll get away with it without any punishment.
    You forgot a big one, they want an excuse to STEAL and LOOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Back to the video, at about the 14:57 mark I swear I see a guy brandishing a handgun... I could be wrong, considering it's not being filmed with a very quality camera.
    The folks over at http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...ussion-thread/
    have been covering Ferguson pretty thoroughly.
    It's a camera, not a gun.
    I thought the same thing the first time I watched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    ...There's also lots of other stuff pissing people off - the gofundme campaign for Wilson raised $250,000 for him, when his legal bills are being paid for by the state, is viewed as an attaboy for killing a young black man (the comments in the gofundme campaign which are full of straight up racist bullshit don't help.) The fact that his name was withheld until his internet presence could be scrubbed and he could move out of state (on taxpayer dime,) or that he hasn't been arrested - which, if a bunch of eyewitnesses agree on something, even if the stories don't all match up, any non-police person would be arrested - is also aggravating....
    I donated as an attaboy for doing his job - putting down a worthless thug.
    Also for his unimaginable future - where's he possibly going to live, work, raise his family?

    Perhaps you haven't noticed, but there is far more racist BS coming from the Saint Brown side.

    Eyewitnesses only matter if they're credible - these are not.

    Prediction: Grand Jury will No Bill and St Louis will burn - along with Detroit, Oakland, and every other city that celebrates diversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    My question is, what happens when the Ferguson PD gets fed up and strikes?
    The county police will move in and patrol Ferguson. If they require additional assistance, other local municipal police and possibly the state police will supplement the patrols. When those resources are exhausted, the governor of Missouri will direct the Missouri National Guard to begin relieving local law enforcement of logistical functions like prisoner transports etc...

    As to the image of the camera being held by a person at night. That is a good example why people shouldn't point things at the police. At night, during heightened tension, people tend to see what they expect to see, which may or may not be what the object actually is. These types of mistakes have and will continue to lead to tragic shootings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Prediction: Grand Jury will No Bill and St Louis will burn - along with Detroit, Oakland, and every other city that celebrates diversity.
    I'd like to place $20 on that also.
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