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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I'd like to point something else out. 600+ shots, only 10 rounds hit the hostage. I think I've seen worse at IPSC matches without moving vehicles or the cardboard shooting back.
    Maybe they were aiming for her to compensate?

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    SSDD -

    EAST CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Investigators will begin today interviewing the 13 Cleveland police officers who fired 137 bullets Thursday at a car, killing a Cleveland man and woman in East Cleveland after a high-speed chase.
    Cleveland officials are suspending 63 police officers for their roles in a November car chase that ended in the shooting deaths of an unarmed man and woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I'd like to point something else out. 600+ shots, only 10 rounds hit the hostage. I think I've seen worse at IPSC matches without moving vehicles or the cardboard shooting back.
    Really depends on how many actually hit the car.

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    Reminds me of this "King of the Hill" episode.

    I remember my first buck.
    Took me six shots to bring him down three more to finish him off.
    There was no useable meat left, but what a thrill.

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    The Hollywood bank robbery really puts it into perspective for me.

    Over 300 law enforcement officers from various forces had responded to the city-wide TAC alert.
    The two well-armored men had fired approximately 1,100 rounds, while approximately 650 rounds were fired by police.

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    I'm not going to even try to determine if they should or should not have used that much firepower I was not there. Having said that, I think this story could go a long way toward proving that even for trained LE professionals it takes more than 15 rounds to stop a threat. It looks like it could take as many as 200 rounds to stop each perp and they didn't even kill one of them. Maybe if the ten errant rounds that killed the hostage would have hit the surviving perp he would be dead as well. It also took 33 officers to prove this, so they can't say it was one cop that can't shoot. Now let us have our standard capacity mags.

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    How the hell did the sole suspect survive 600 rounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMAC757 View Post
    How the hell did the sole suspect survive 600 rounds?
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMAC757 View Post
    How the hell did the sole suspect survive 600 rounds?

    I see that the same as some gun camera footage you see from the sandbox.

    apache fires a volley of rounds right at the guy .... still gets back up and runs away ... Luck I guess.. well till they get him with the second volley .. tho I did see one were the guy survived 1 hellfire and 2 volleys of cannon fire, 3rd one blew him to pieces tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMAC757 View Post
    How the hell did the sole suspect survive 600 rounds?
    I still say, everything worth saying has already been said... you just have to find it.

    Jules:This was Divine Intervention! You know what "divine intervention" is?Vincent:Yeah, I think so. That means God came down from Heaven and stopped the bullets.
    Jules:Yeah, man, that's what it means. That's exactly what it means! God came down from Heaven and stopped the bullets.
    Vincent:I think we should be going now.
    Juleson't do that! Don't you fucking do that! Don't blow this shit off! What just happened was a fucking miracle!
    Vincent:Chill the fuck out, Jules, this shit happens.
    Jules:Wrong! Wrong, this shit doesn't just happen.
    Vincento you wanna continue this theological discussion in the car, or at the jailhouse with the cops?
    Jules:We should be fuckin' dead now, my friend! We just witnessed a miracle, and I want you to fucking acknowledge it!
    Vincent:Okay man, it was a miracle, can we leave now?
    Separate but related scene since I couldn't find a short clip of the first.


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