I've had it with these stupid f'n red turn arrows

[MarkCO]

I was driving my truck on Monday and my evil side got the better of me, teenage girl was driving, texting and putting on mascara. I could see into her car and it was a bigger mess than my boys rooms. I looked around, just her and me going the same way. I exercised my 1st amendment rights and expressed myself with a good honk of the horn. She put a streak of mascara down her cheek and dropped her cell phone, then flipped me off. I had a good morning.

[jerrymrc]

No shit. Many lights up here were recently changed to flashing yellow arrows and a lot of people have no clue.

I have to say the first one of those I saw was in Oregon about six years ago. First thought was Huh? Then it clicked. I will say I love roundabouts, gives me a chance to test the horn.

I try and use flow/merge lanes as a teaching moment.

[stoner01]

Traffic engineers always annoy me. So much of what they "fix" is busy work. Like the moronic blinking yellow arrows that Aurora's retarded traffic department adopted for no reason.

They out those fuckers in everywhere. And why? Aurora finds stoopid ways to use its funds. Like all the "all American city" signs that could have gotten APD it's own bomb squad instead.

[Zombie Steve]

This is the opposite of the intersections that I described. Which one of us is correct?

At least if the left has its own turn lane and you need to go straight, the people turning right have a CHANCE of turning on a red, and if I'm going straight and the light is green, they can turn anyway. If I have to wait for someone turning left, I miss the damn light half the time. Something very wrong with not getting through a green light when you are going straight.

[sic_semper_tyrannis]

Those flashing yellow turn arrows that have been popping up all over the place recently just boggle my mind. They serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever, because they are completely redundant. Traffic turning left on green has always had to yield right-of-way to oncoming traffic. This is the way it has ALWAYS been. A solid green light with no turn arrow activated means exactly that: Left turns can proceed when oncoming traffic is clear. These flashing yellow arrows have the EXACT SAME MEANING. So why the hell do they exist? All it does it confuse the Deliverance-kids that are too stupid to breath let alone operate a vehicle. Generally, even the derpiest of tards at least understands the principal of 'yield on left'. These flashing yellow arrows just add another layer of complexity that makes shit unnecessarily confusing.

To clarify, I fully believe that dedicated turn arrows serve a purpose. There are plenty of intersections that need them, because oncoming traffic during rush hour would never allow for left turns to be made without them. Pretty much any intersection along Wadsworth between I-70 and Church Ranch (a godless soul sucking stretch of road I call "The Gauntlet") would be a prime example. So during rush hour, it makes sense to have those dedicated green arrows. However, even during rush hour, it is still stupid that the 'left turn yield on green' rule does not apply. After the green arrows ends, the signal SHOULD cycle to two-way solid green. That way, cars can proceed during the constant gaps in oncoming traffic, thus helping to clear out the turn lanes and stop them from backing-up into the normal through-lanes, an issue which creates even more problems.

[sic_semper_tyrannis]

This kind of signal = YES!!! GREAT SUCCESS!! EVERYONE WINS!!

[SideShow Bob]

....and then there's the turn arrow with the pickup loop that's tuned to react only to an 18 wheeler loaded with 80000 lbs of drill pipe, so that any number of motorcycles short of the entire membership of the Hell's Angels won't trigger the damn turn arrow. If I had a dollar for every time I've had to sit through an entire light cycle before running the goddamn red left turn arrow, I could have bought every election in the state for the Republican party. Allegedly, all the fucking cameras are supposed to be for vehicle detection so that doesn't happen, but I ain't buyin' it. Buncha syphillitic Democrat cockholsters trying to generate revenue....

Try staying centered in the left turn lane, and behind the stop bar or crosswalk and don't creep forward. If you do this, you will get the signal a lot more. State and most all Metro area specs call for the inductive detectors in the pavement to be able to pick up and hold a call from a "120 cc motor bike".
The most common problem of detectors not calling is because the motorist (car or motorcycle) is either that they don't stop until they are past the stop bar and into the crosswalk, especially at the intersections where the stop bar and crosswalk are set back from the flow line of the cross traffic, or they creep forward past the stop bar into the crosswalk while waiting for the signals to change.

[sic_semper_tyrannis]

This kind of signal = FUCK OFF AND DIE

[SideShow Bob]

This kind of signal = YES!!! GREAT SUCCESS!! EVERYONE WINS!!

And no longer approved by The FHWA or MUTCD. That why we now have the Flashing Yellow Arrow left turn signals on federal and state highways. Existing ones can be maintained, but if they are rebuilt, they have to go.

[sic_semper_tyrannis]

To the OP, if you can conjure up a good rant on the failure to use acceleration lanes...my enthusiasm might increase.

Honestly, as annoying as that can be, I don't experience problems with it nearly often enough to piss me off. The red arrow thing is different, because it affects me on every single trip I ever take, no matter how short. However, I will give your issue some credit in regards to Florida. I go there a couple times a year, and the merge/acceleration lane thing is a huge problem there. All the blue hairs spilling out from the County Kitchen Buffet can lead to some scary situations.