ELECTION 2014 - Merged Threads

[cstone]

The Dems hated Ralph Nader the same way the Reps hated Ross Perot. When you lose by a slim margin and the 3rd party candidate closest to your candidate gets enough votes to swing the election in the other direction, the issue is clear.

Ideology is good. Being in a position to affect change to bring about your ideology is better.

Elections are about winning. If you can't win, and as of today in 2014, the Green Party, CPUSA, and the Libertarian Party are not in a position to win statewide elections in Colorado. Not now. Not in the recent past. Not in the near future.

Be idealistic and live with the opposite of what you want OR choke down your idealism and try to win and get a part of what you want.

[HoneyBadger]

The Dems hated Ralph Nader the same way the Reps hated Ross Perot. When you lose by a slim margin and the 3rd party candidate closest to your candidate gets enough votes to swing the election in the other direction, the issue is clear.

Ideology is good. Being in a position to affect change to bring about your ideology is better.

Elections are about winning. If you can't win, and as of today in 2014, the Green Party, CPUSA, and the Libertarian Party are not in a position to win statewide elections in Colorado. Not now. Not in the recent past. Not in the near future.

Be idealistic and live with the opposite of what you want OR choke down your idealism and try to win and get a part of what you want.

As usual, cstone comes to the thread bearing gifts of wisdom.

[MED]

Looks like the Morse's seat went to somebody even more gun hostile than Morse...Great!

http://www.9news.com/story/news/poli...ills/18546459/

[Great-Kazoo]

Looks like the Morse's seat went to somebody even more gun hostile than Morse...Great!

http://www.9news.com/story/news/poli...ills/18546459/

Certain districts will always vote one way or another. The D's complain about gerrymandering, yet they are the ones who did the redistricting. I bet the D's are saying the same thing about Ken Buck. Who care's..... If the R's don't step up they will be gone next election cycle. IF the D's with Obama at the helm use EO's to pass immigration (SURPRISE!) reform, minimum wage and what ever else their entitlement minds think up. They will not be voted but dragged out, in tar and feathers .

Take a stand where ever you want. Mine is set.

[Rumline]

IF the D's with Obama at the helm use EO's to pass immigration (SURPRISE!) reform, minimum wage and what ever else their entitlement minds think up. They will not be voted but dragged out, in tar and feathers .

Are you sure about that? I think a more likely situation is that Obama will sign the most sweeping immigration/entitlement EOs he can think of. Republicans will be frothing at the mouth and make idiots out of themselves in the eyes of "minorities," thereby ensuring a Republican loss in 2016. Legacy win for Obama and big win for Democrats.

[Great-Kazoo]

Are you sure about that? I think a more likely situation is that Obama will sign the most sweeping immigration/entitlement EOs he can think of. Republicans will be frothing at the mouth and make idiots out of themselves in the eyes of "minorities," thereby ensuring a Republican loss in 2016. Legacy win for Obama and big win for Democrats.

How's that immigration working out there?

sorry / triste

¿Cómo es que la inmigración de trabajo por ahí?

[sellersm]

Are you sure about that? I think a more likely situation is that Obama will sign the most sweeping immigration/entitlement EOs he can think of. Republicans will be frothing at the mouth and make idiots out of themselves in the eyes of "minorities," thereby ensuring a Republican loss in 2016. Legacy win for Obama and big win for Democrats.

Probably more like Julius Ceasar when he was 'ousted'... O will cry “Alea iacta est!” and get his 'army' together and fight hard against the R's...

[Robb]

Are you sure about that? I think a more likely situation is that Obama will sign the most sweeping immigration/entitlement EOs he can think of. Republicans will be frothing at the mouth and make idiots out of themselves in the eyes of "minorities," thereby ensuring a Republican loss in 2016. Legacy win for Obama and big win for Democrats.

This is exactly what will happen.
Obama is now in a corner. He doesn't give two sh*ts about whether his actions would hurt Hillary or any other Dem running for prez in two years. It's all about him and his legacy is at stake. He'll use that pen and phone as he wishes and sadly it appears congress is pretty much powerless to stop him. In these next two years can really hurt this country. Oh, I'm sorry, I meant to say "fundamentally change this country" to match his and his bases's views to the point where this country is barely recognizable. Every city in this country could be a border city. That's my fear.

[Demodave]

This is exactly what will happen.
Obama is now in a corner. He doesn't give two sh*ts about whether his actions would hurt Hillary or any other Dem running for prez in two years. It's all about him and his legacy is at stake. He'll use that pen and phone as he wishes and sadly it appears congress is pretty much powerless to stop him. In these next two years can really hurt this country. Oh, I'm sorry, I meant to say "fundamentally change this country" to match his and his bases's views to the point where this country is barely recognizable. Every city in this country could be a border city. That's my fear.

This is what is most troublesome...

Not only that, by doing so, Hitlary will then be able to sneak in between the non functioning Repubs, and the disaster that O will surely cause...

Look out, we headed for some very difficult times

[cstone]

As usual, cstone comes to the thread bearing gifts of wisdom.

It's 4 o'clock. Time for Wapner. People's Court. Definitely time for Wapner. - Wisdom of a Rainman