Serious Question...how can you possibly NOT be a libertarian?

[Ronin13]

The ideals in the libertarian party platform aren't bad in and of themselves. They're just not workable or realistic. I love all of the talk of taking responsibility for one's actions but come on...take a look around. How do you think that's working out in our society?

I like the part about them wanting to do away with income tax and getting rid of the IRS... I want a solid platinum, full-auto AK-47, for free... I just don't think it's in the cards.

[bryjcom]

I like the part about them wanting to do away with income tax and getting rid of the IRS... I want a solid platinum, full-auto AK-47, for free... I just don't think it's in the cards.

The last time I did the math(been a few years) we could completely eliminate the income tax, and have a balanced budget...... As long as you're comfortable with the size of the federal government in 1990.

Its not out of the realm, it would just require the ideas of what a federal government should look like, to change....

With the way things are going with society, I say we just keep voting republican and hope for a miracle.

[Great-Kazoo]

The last time I did the math(been a few years) we could completely eliminate the income tax, and have a balanced budget...... As long as you're comfortable with the size of the federal government in 1990.

Its not out of the realm, it would just require the ideas of what a federal government should look like, to change....

With the way things are going with society, I say we just keep voting republican and hope for a miracle.

A challenger has risen

[Justin]

no politician I have seen lately has even 75-80% of what I want... but I settle for the basics.. fiscal conservancy, less government, stay out of people's lives.

perhaps a bit of integrity..

This has nothing to do whatsoever with agreement with politicians.

I said "you" with the intention of making it understood that the reason you get so many libertarians telling you to go fuck yourself is the result of a fundamental misunderstanding of why someone who's libertarian chooses to vote that way.

Many Republicans, including the most vocal anti-libertarian ones who post on this forum, seem to labor under the delusion that political fear mongering and appeals to political partisan victory are things likely to motivate libertarians.

They quite frankly, aren't, and I find it remarkable that, after years of using those tactics here, the libertarian haters haven't clued in to the fact that if you want to get the vote of someone who's libertarian, you can't motivate them with the same psychological impulses that motivate the average Republican*.

While there may be significant crossover in the beliefs of conservatives and libertarians, the underlying mindset motivating why those beliefs are held and how their expressed are completely different, and some would argue, ultimately incompatible.



*The other likely option is that the libertarian haters here aren't actually interested in a discussion likely to convince a libertarian to vote for their side so much as they are just looking for a convenient target to lash out at because that's way easier than actually examining and meaningfully addressing the epic amounts of stupidity that appears to be endemic to the Colorado GOP.

[Bailey Guns]

It's also possible, maybe even likely when considering the (lack of?) support libertarians get election after election, that the libertarians are the delusional types. That's also supported by some of their pie-in-the-sky platform planks.

[Justin]

Thank you for proving my point.

[Bailey Guns]

Yeah...that's it. Exactly. You're absolutely right. So there's no need for you and I to continue. Pick your fight with someone else.

[PugnacAutMortem]

My question is why in God's name would libertarians want to support republican candidates when a large sector of their supporters do nothing but name call and insult libertarians for being "stupid", "lazy", "utopian" and "delusional"?

[davsel]

Feelers just got hurt. IBTL

[68Charger]

My question is why in God's name would libertarians want to support republican candidates when a large sector of their supporters do nothing but name call and insult libertarians for being "stupid", "lazy", "utopian" and "delusional"?

Because they're against the other party that wants to take away more of their rights?

loaded question, you're not going to accept any answer- but I'm going with the lesser of 2 evils argument.