fair dui flyer

[kidicarus13]

And being detained without cause.


Sent from my tin foil coated mind reading device.

It's a game of odds. If they contact enough motorists they're bound to find something illegal.

[mindfold]

They search enough homes without warrants they are bound to find something.


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[sniper7]

It's starts somewhere. I don't blame the officers themselves because they are doing their jobs, but I certainly won't be complying.

[Bailey Guns]

And multiply that by the 50 - 70 vehicles in front of you waiting for their turn for the 30 second to 1 minute of having a flashlight shined in their eyes and around the interior of their vehicle and asked questions that are none of the officer's business. Then you will see why most of us think it is a waste of time, resources and tax payer dallors for the results the check points produce.

No, you don't multiply it by 50 to 70 vehicles. Usually, not every vehicle is stopped...it's predetermined which vehicles will be stopped but it must not be random. For example, every 10th vehicle or every vehicle. You may think it's a waste of time. But they usually are very productive in terms of catching drunk drivers though there is a perception, even among many police officers, that they're ineffective. At least in my experience they've been productive. But my experience is limited to only working a few checkpoints.

[Bailey Guns]

They search enough homes without warrants they are bound to find something.

Seriously? Is this a problem where you live?

[mindfold]

Slippery slope. We should not hold the 4th amendment with less regard as we do for the 2nd.


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[Bailey Guns]

So that's a "no"? You're not really familiar with a rash of incidents involving the police searching homes without a warrant? So it's kind of an imaginary slippery slope you're referring to?

[Bailey Guns]

We go from a guy placing his DL, registration and insurance, along with a not that he's not talking, into a bag at a checkpoint (which I agree is kind of a cool approach), to having to wait for 50 to 70 cars in front of you, to cops searching homes. Why can't we dispense with the hyperbole?

[mindfold]

It is the same premise many of us on this forum feel about " shall not infringe". We as patriots, should question when ANY part of The Constitution is overlooked in the name of feel good terms like safety.


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[Bailey Guns]

So it isn't really a problem where you live...at all? And I'd say not just patriots should be concerned about Constitutional infringements. Every citizen should be whether they consider themselves a patriot or not.