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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker View Post
    Seriously, do you really believe there is not a database being compiled on all the private sales guns that had NO paperwork on them before??? So using your logic why worry about the mag ban? Have you heard of mag confiscations yet? Wake TF up!!! BOTH laws are bad, but the worst of the two is the BG law that puts thousands, perhaps millions of non papered, not traceable guns on the radar screen.
    Oh fuck, here we go again with this shit.

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    Yes a former felon should be allowed to own a gun. After he has done his time, paid his debt to society and has been released, and all his other rights have been restored, why not his gun rights?? If he cannot be trusted with a gun why has he been freed from prison? Where in the constitution does it say an ex felon can't own a firearm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Answer me this:

    Do you think a felon should be allowed to own a gun? To vote? Should someone under investigation for making threats against their spouse be allowed to purchase a firearm?

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    Enough? Says who?? We all have right to our opinion don't we? This is a forum isn't it? Why are gun people so threatened by the discussion of the ramifications of the backround check law?
    Last edited by milwaukeeshaker; 01-10-2015 at 20:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Answer me this:

    Do you think a felon should be allowed to own a gun? To vote? Should someone under investigation for making threats against their spouse be allowed to purchase a firearm?
    Yes, felons should have ALL their rights restored at some point after they do their time. As for someone under investigation, they are innocent until proven guilty so yes they should be able to purchase a firearm. If later they are convicted of a crime than part of their punishment is that they lose their rights for a time, but no crime should end your rights forever (unless you are executed for it or jailed for life) and no rights should be removed without a trial and conviction.
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    the problem is..everytime you give up any freedom, it will bite you in the ass.

    here is an example

    lets say two men want to get married and the state they live in will not allow them to marry? that would be bad Right?

    the trouble is, some dipshit somewhere in the past decided it was ok to let the goverment tell him that he needed permission to marry. the government has no right to "allow or not allow" you to marry whoever you choose. yet the freedom was given away and now some people want some of the freedom back and the government doesnt want to give it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker View Post
    Enough? Says who?? We all have right to our opinion don't we? This is a forum isn't it?
    You're yelling at me about my opinion. Mine is worth no more or less than yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    the problem is..everytime you give up any freedom, it will bite you in the ass.

    here is an example

    lets say two men want to get married and the state they live in will not allow them to marry? that would be bad Right?

    the trouble is, some dipshit somewhere in the past decided it was ok to let the goverment tell him that he needed permission to marry. the government has no right to "allow or not allow" you to marry whoever you choose. yet the freedom was given away and now some people want some of the freedom back and the government doesnt want to give it back.
    Government isinvolved because taxes are involved. Remove tax breaks for married couples and it's no longer their problem.

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    i agree. end the majority of government involvement in our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Government isinvolved because taxes are involved. Remove tax breaks for married couples and it's no longer their problem.
    Taxes should be on consumption, not income anyway (since reporting one's income is a massive violation of privacy rights).
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    You're yelling at me about my opinion. Mine is worth no more or less than yours.
    No, he was yelling at Brutal.
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