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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post

    But I really don't know what can be done about it that's not already being done. It's going to take a ground army to engage them and make a real difference...and I'm not ready or willing to send our soldiers to do that at this point. I'm afraid it's likely they'll cross a line in the not-too-distant future that will probably make that a necessity.
    The problem with sending in a ground force is that it will be a repeat of the latter years of Iraq. It won't be a uniform versus uniform war like it is now ( to a degree). They'll go back to hiding. At least now the peshmerga are engaging them fairly openly

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    Why do we need to eliminate them?

    Why do we need to eliminate their women?

    Why do we need to eliminate their children?


    It's been done before

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    They are not human. Deal with them accordingly.
    A country will have to take a global leadership role in order to do that, unfortunately the United States is no longer that country.

    I wouldn't be looking to Europe, Russia or China anytime soon, they have their own concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad4000 View Post
    Yeah, I was puzzled by that too... Im also reading that Jordan will execute their POW's tonight in retaliation...
    Where is the like button! I hope they burn them and release the tape, I would get some popcorn.

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    As tragic as this is, and I understand that it is....

    I have long thought that getting some of the more amicable islamic states in that region on our side was the key to winning this "war" on terror. Turkey, which is IMHO the only truly westernized and modern islamic state (some other states are getting there, but still have a ways to go) voted almost unanimously to allow their president to attack ISIS at will, including in Iraq and Syria. Unfortunately, very little has come of this, except for some show of force on Syria/Turkey border towns. But I, in someways, hope something provokes Turkey to get more involved now that it is approved. Rest assured, Turkey is nothing to mess with.... they have the largest standing infantry in NATO (besting the U.S. by almost 40%), and their military boys live and breath military from a very young age.

    Now, I think we may have an ally in Jordan, who in general is fairly westernized and civil compared the company they have in that region. They also have one of the best air forces of all islamic countries, overshadowed by only Turkey and Iran. Turkey + Jordan could present quite a formidable foe for ISIS, especially with western backing and elevated support by muslims who might be happy to join a war against the west, but are not so keen to join a terrorist force against other muslims.

    We shall see, but I think ISIS is on their way to signing their death warrant if they keep down this path. We can only hope.
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    The world has always been full of atrocities like this. There just wasn't a proliferation of media and Internet coverage for these types of things back in the day.

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    IBTL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad4000 View Post
    amen.... napalm and carpet bombing..
    And salt. Lots of salt.
    Te occidere possunt sed te edere non possunt nefas est

    Sane person with a better sight picture

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    When the original deadline passed for exchanging the female suicide bomber in Jordanian custody for the two Japanese citizens and Jordanian pilot, Jordan said if you kill our pilot, we will execute every ISIS prisoner in our custody. I wonder if they will follow through with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    Yes and no. It breeds its own kind of vengeance killing, for sure.

    But imagine if the slice of Israel was replaced with a slice of Washington DC. It would be CHAOS.

    Remember that they hate jews more than they hate us. But DC wouldn't survive in that geographical area. They fear Israel.The Israeli answer isn't a solution, but it definitely works far, far better than our answer. Where they proactively kill vermin, we spend 5 million and two years to get to trial and lavish accommodations and media exposure for their family, then give them three squares.

    We've never won a war since the american public and congress got personally involved trying to turn a dung heap into a puppy and flowers.

    Reality is, if you want to beat a sociopath, you can't do it by being the good guy.
    If you want to beat a country of sociopaths, you can't do it by being the good guy. FEAR and CONTROL. You don't bring them democracy. You utterly dominate and then rule by fear slowly changing society.

    Muslims killing Muslims is generally a positive thing though. Maybe they can keep their own populations in check. If Obama keeps supply weapons to both sides maybe we'll get somewhere! The man is a tactical genius! Next thing he'll sell Nukes to Sunnis, Kurds, ISIS and Shiites, and go launch an empty ICBM fallujah and watch what happens.

    I recently heard an interview with a guy that used to be an extremist Muslim and recruiter. He was commenting about how ISIS is now actively fighting Al qaeda. Basically he said something along the lines of, 'If you're going to die for your religious beliefs, you better be 100% sure that your religion is the correct one, so you can't let that other similar religion over there be claiming that they are the correct religion.' He went on to comparte ISIS and Al qaeda to Monty Python's "The Life of Brian" by saying that eventually they start fighting among themselves whether they are The People's United Front of Judea, or The United Front of the Judean People. So basically, it sounds like other extremist shit bags are the biggest answer to the ISIS problem. Of course, then both the groups that are fighting each other, are still out killing everyone else as well, so it's not much of a solution after all.
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