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    Just some more religious anti-science huey:

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/20/republicans-to-investigate-climate-data-tampering-by-nasa/


    Rohrabacher serves as the vice chairman of the House Science, Space and Technology Committee, which has jurisdiction over NASA and other agencies that monitor the Earth’s climate.

    Rohrabacher has long been critical of the theory of man-made global warming. Lately, the California Republican has criticizing NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration for allegedly tampering with temperature data to create an artificial warming trend. Such data is then used to justify regulations aimed at curbing fossil fuel use and other industrial activities.

    @grngamine journalist investigation shows records of various weather stations altered by AGW advocates to make it appear to be warming. — Dana Rohrabacher (@DanaRohrabacher) February 19, 2015

    @caerbannog666 U seem unaware of latest revelation of data manipulation. NASA reported higher temp than what was record at weather stations — Dana Rohrabacher (@DanaRohrabacher) February 19, 2015

    Rohrabacher isn’t the only one to call for hearings on the science behind global warming. Oklahoma Republican Sen. Jim Inhofe has also promised to hold hearings on global warming data.

    “We’re going to have a committee hearing on the science,” said Inhofe, who chairs the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. “People are going to hear the other side of the story.”

    For years, those skeptical of man-made global warming have argued that government agencies are altering raw temperature data to create a warming trend. Allegations of tampering have increased as satellite temperature readings show much less warming than land and ocean-based weather stations show.

    Science blogger Steven Goddard (a pseudonym) has been a major critic of NASA’s and NOAA’s temperature measurements. Goddard points out that NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center makes the present look warmer by artificially cooling past temperatures to show a warming trend.

    “NCDC pulls every trick in the book to turn the US cooling trend into warming. The raw data shows cooling since the 1920s,” Goddard told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an interview last month.

    “NCDC does a hockey stick of adjustments to reverse the trend,” Goddard said. “This includes cooling the past for ‘time of observation bias’ infilling missing rural data with urban temperatures, and doing almost nothing to compensate for urban heat island effects.”

    NOAA does make temperature adjustments, but it argues such adjustments are necessary to remove “artificial biases” in surface temperature data. The biggest adjustment made by NCDC scientists is cooling past data to take into account the fact that there was a big shift from taking temperature readings in the afternoon to the morning.

    “We get a lot of people questioning our data adjustments,” Thomas Peterson, NCDC’s principal scientist, told TheDCNF. There was an “artificial cool bias in the data,” Peterson said.

    Switching the time of the day temperatures were taken from the afternoon, when temperatures are warmer, to the morning, when temperatures are cooler, caused a cooling bias in the data. Temperature data from nearby weather stations was used to help create a baseline temperature for different regions.

    But there are some drawbacks in surface temperature readings from a few thousand weather stations, boats and buoys spread out across the world. Peterson said the weather station system is “only really good for the U.S.”

    “The main problem is where there are a few stations in the middle of nowhere.” Peterson said, specifically referring to weather station data problems on St. Helena Island.

    UK Telegraph writer Christopher Booker joined the fray recently, using work by Goddard and other bloggers to criticize climate agencies for data tampering.

    “Of much more serious significance, however, is the way this wholesale manipulation of the official temperature record… has become the real elephant in the room of the greatest and most costly scare the world has known,” Booker wrote. “This really does begin to look like one of the greatest scientific scandals of all time.”

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    Most of the drivers of the 'climate change' hoax are related to government funding. Governments that control people by fear of 'something'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Most of the drivers of the 'climate change' hoax are related to government funding. Governments that control people by fear of 'something'.

    True science is never settled and is always skeptical about our current understanding of what we think we know.
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    Well, astrology is a settled science....

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    Even the Amish are going green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Most of the drivers of the 'climate change' hoax are related to government funding. Governments that control people by fear of 'something'.

    True science is never settled and is always skeptical about our current understanding of what we think we know.

    This is why I never go anywhere without a carabiner and a length of rope.

    I mean, you expect me to just believe a bunch of ivory-tower egg heads when they say the science is settled on their so-called "theory" of gravity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    I mean, you expect me to just believe a bunch of ivory-tower egg heads when they say the science is settled on their so-called "theory" of gravity?
    Cute but I can predict the effects of gravity with reasonable accuracy (depending on how much I know about the starting state) and more importantly, I can back-predict with very good accuracy. The GCMs do a horrible job of either. If they can't back-predict the last decade without incredible "FM" black box work, why would you trust them to predict the NEXT decade? century?

    You can conduct experiments demonstrating gravitational forces in high school and examine the data and code from post-PhD experiments freely. Getting Phil Jones' data or Michael Mann's code is like trying to get Obama to release his college transcripts. Great efforts have been made to reverse engineer Mann's code -- with the skeptics' products freely available on the web for examination, modification, and critique -- and done a pretty good job of bracketing what he did, thereby showing his missteps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    This is why I never go anywhere without a carabiner and a length of rope.

    I mean, you expect me to just believe a bunch of ivory-tower egg heads when they say the science is settled on their so-called "theory" of gravity?
    You do realize that Einstein seriously altered the "settled science" of Newton (and the quantum mechanics guys are starting to question some of Einstein's findings)? No that doesn't mean you'll likely ever float away, but to claim that the "theory of gravity" is settled science is not entirely accurate.

    A lot of folk will use the boiling point of water as an example of "settled science" but its not a constant (altitude and barometric pressure will alter it ... most of us here in Colorado should know this since we have to use the "high altitude directions" to make our Kraft Mac & Cheese). But back when 99.9% of the human population lived below 1000 ft it was assumed to be a carved in stone constant everywhere.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Whaaaaaaaa.......you mean Newton was wrong ?!? Seven years of college....down the drain!
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    You mean Eintein's fear of relatives trumps Newton's apple pie?

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