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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    But ObamaCare said "Affordable Care Act" on the cover, right?
    I was going to say that the name of the bill sounds like it's a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorDG View Post
    I was going to say that the name of the bill sounds like it's a good thing.
    Of course it does! "Department of Homeland Security" sound like a good thing too, right?
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    http://www.fcc.gov/document/protecti...-internet-nprm

    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    How do you know? If you have a source for the 330 page regulation, please pass along. Every single report I have read from a dozen different sources, both for and against it, say it hasn't been published for public review.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    But ObamaCare said "Affordable Care Act" on the cover, right?
    if they limit what private companies can charge for products they are limiting what private companies will spend to develop better products and services. Why spend millions of dollars if their is no return on the investment.

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    That's not the document they just voted to pass.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    No, but it is the meat of what was proposed. They did not rewrite the whole thing. We do still need to see the details to see any twists, that was in my original post, but this is what we have to go on till we get more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    That's not the document they just voted to pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    No, but it is the meat of what was proposed. They did not rewrite the whole thing. We do still need to see the details to see any twists, that was in my original post, but this is what we have to go on till we get more.
    That document is nowhere near 332 pages ... They have clearly added a TON of stuff to it. I still suspect we've got a suckerpunch coming that will knock the wind out of the Internet (and by extension the 1st Amendment). I know many left of center techies are all in love with the idea of "Net Neutrality" but I believe your zeal for an ideal has been used to gain support for something that will end up being nothing like what you think you want.


    Keep in mind that based only on that smaller document from May you linked, Anonymous was adamantly opposed to this deal. They're not exactly on the side of Republicans or large corporations.
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    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Quote Originally Posted by trlcavscout View Post
    if they limit what private companies can charge for products they are limiting what private companies will spend to develop better products and services. Why spend millions of dollars if their is no return on the investment.
    That is what government does via regulation and taxation...destroys innovation by destroying the profit motive. Command economies do not work at any level on any product.

    This is way bigger than just "fairness" or whatever horsepuckey we're being fed that NN is "good" for us. NN is another Trojan horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    No, but it is the meat of what was proposed. They did not rewrite the whole thing. We do still need to see the details to see any twists, that was in my original post, but this is what we have to go on till we get more.
    We had about that much to go on when they were discussing Bama care too. At the time it was enough for me to say, "this is going to suck." along with a lot of other not so nice things. Then they added a bunch of shit that we had to "pass the bill to know what's in it" that the people of this country to this very day are just finding out.

    The most transparent government ever. Isn't that what he told us?

    Don't read a book by its cover....especially when it comes to the feds. They mismanage everything they touch no matter their original intentions and this will be no different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    That is what government does via regulation and taxation...destroys innovation by destroying the profit motive. Command economies do not work at any level on any product.

    This is way bigger than just "fairness" or whatever horsepuckey we're being fed that NN is "good" for us. NN is another Trojan horse.
    This seems to be the issue. "Net Neutrality" on its face is something I agree with and feel strongly about. However, i have a feeling that this is something much more, and just named "Net Neutrality."
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