SCOTUS: Cops can't force you to wait for K9

[hurley842002]

Most of the "k9's" are trained to "alert" when the cop gives a specific hand signal, or vocal command thereby allowing him to now search your vehicle based on a false PC, "because the dog alerted". Due to these dog nazis, your 4th amendment rights are already gone. They will circle the car and let the dog jump on the vehicle scratching the s--t out of your exterior and interior, and when they find nothing, tough s--t, you now have a damaged vehicle thanks to Johnny law, and you can't recover any compensation for the repairs. So what the SCOTUS ruled means nothing in the real world.

Is your post based on extensive experience, or just stuff you read on the Internet?

[68Charger]

I'm curious what the SCOTUS would say about reasonable suspicion -after the initial contact- that does not fulfill probable cause for a warrant, but instead would, as per most agencies policies, permit a dog sniff to confirm if drugs are present. This decision changes a lot about drug interdiction. I agree with Alito, if reasonable suspicion exists then a K9 deployment for a sniff (which *technically* doesn't violate the 4th amendment- as it is not entry into the vehicle) would be legal. Having an interest in becoming a K9 Deputy, this just makes my future position less effective.

Ronin, I'm afraid the SCOTUS doesn't consider what it could to to prospective career paths... consider yourself lucky that this happened now and you can make an informed decision, rather than right after you did K9 training, and then the dept decided to lay off 1/2 the K9 force. (that's how it would work in Corporate America)
It's NOT a 4th amendment issue of "search" as they have decided- it's unlawful detention (seizure of their person)... based on limits of the police force, and not whether the individual has done anything wrong.

[GunsRBadMMMMKay]

As opposed too..?

Kitties? http://www.madeupnews.com/feature/fe...42300_cat.html

[Irving]

I wonder if this will effect interactions where police steal money from people just because someone had a lot of cash on them. I wouldn't think that it would.

[milwaukeeshaker]

Experience. Go to you tube, there are videos there. Got a Colorado plate? Get ready for the B.S.

Is your post based on extensive experience, or just stuff you read on the Internet?

[hurley842002]

Experience. Go to you tube, there are videos there. Got a Colorado plate? Get ready for the B.S.

Okay, well I tend to not put much stock in folks who direct me to youtube for their argument.

[milwaukeeshaker]

Well officer, I also said first hand experience.

Okay, well I tend to not put much stock in folks who direct me to youtube for their argument.

[cstone]

Be courteous to one another.

Last and only warning.

[osok-308]

Most of the "k9's" are trained to "alert" when the cop gives a specific hand signal, or vocal command thereby allowing him to now search your vehicle based on a false PC, "because the dog alerted". Due to these dog nazis, your 4th amendment rights are already gone. They will circle the car and let the dog jump on the vehicle scratching the s--t out of your exterior and interior, and when they find nothing, tough s--t, you now have a damaged vehicle thanks to Johnny law, and you can't recover any compensation for the repairs. So what the SCOTUS ruled means nothing in the real world.

That sounds very unfortunate that you had such a terrible experience with K9 units. I am in LE as well as I have several family members who are as well. One is actually a K9 officer as well. This is not a common experience with K9 handlers and most of the K9 officers I know are not guys who are "dog nazis" as you so kindly put it. These are people who are trying to ensure that drugs are not being trafficked accross the state. Just try to remember that we are trying to fight for the same team. I don't think that you'd want drug dealers running unchecked throughout the state.

As long as this doesn't interfere with reasonable suspicion or probable cause uses of K9 deployment, I don't see the issue. I am in LE and my duty has always been to the citizens of this state and country. I hope that this ruling doesn't make it more difficult for officers find those that are actually breaking drug laws.

[hurley842002]

That sounds very unfortunate that you had such a terrible experience with K9 units. I am in LE as well as I have several family members who are as well. One is actually a K9 officer as well. This is not a common experience with K9 handlers and most of the K9 officers I know are not guys who are "dog nazis" as you so kindly put it.

Pretty much, but I figured I shouldn't push my luck, so I didn't respond.