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    Courtesy of NBC NEWS:

    OMG: Soldiers Recruited For Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs


    The ranks of the nation's most violent outlaw motorcycle gangs (OMGs) include active-duty soldiers who fly their biker colors while serving overseas and even commit crimes on American soil, according to a federal investigation.
    And military-oriented motorcycle clubs not considered outlaws are starting to adopt the "traits and mannerisms" of their criminal counterparts, the report by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found.



    "Even though only a small percentage of active-duty military personnel, DoD (Department of Defense) employees and contractors have been involved in the shootings or violent acts against adversaries, they belong to and/or (are) associated with OMGs and motorcycle clubs that are pulling the triggers," the report said.


    The findings in the 2014 report — which was first made public by First Look Media after a biker clash in Waco, Texas left nine dead — came as no surprise to Charles Falco, who infiltrated three biker gangs as an undercover informant for the ATF.
    As an officer of the Outlaws in California, he said, other members who were soldiers or contractors would send photos from Iraq and Afghanistan that showed them displaying gang regalia.
    "Are they loyal to the government or are they loyal to the gang? They're more loyal to the gangs," Falco said.
    The ATF report said the Highwaymen, Hells Angels, Bandidos, Warlocks and Mongols have created colors or T-shirts for members serving overseas.



    The 40-page dossier does not give hard numbers for military participation in the 300 or so outlaw groups identified by the feds as "conduits for criminal enterprises." But includes names and photos of service members from all branches who ride with some of the dominant clubs and their support clubs.
    A handful have been linked to weapons seizures or violent episodes. Three Army soldiers were sent to prison for the 2012 murder of an unarmed man who was tossed out of the Sin City Disciples Clubhouse in Colorado Springs, Colorado. One was the gang's sergeant-at-arms, and another was a three-tour Iraq war veteran.
    Military members are considered prized prospects — which comes as no surprise given the gangs' mission of amassing as much territory as possible, Falco said.
    "They're trained, they're great at conducting war and they have the ability to access weapons," he said. "The question is, why would the military allow current military folks to be in an active gang."
    According to the Defense Department, military personnel cannot be involved in "extremist groups" or actively advocate "criminal gang doctrine," but the regulations do not explicitly prohibit membership in an outlaw motorcycle gang. Commanders have the authority to discipline or take criminal action against anyone who flouts the rule.
    Gang recruitment isn't limited to the armed forces, according to the report, which said "the OMG community continues to spread its tentacles through all facets of government."
    Although Falco said actual law-enforcement officers are generally banned, the report says gang prospects, members and associates include employees of police and fire departments and 911 call centers.



    It notes that while the ATF's annual report on military gangs ties is labeled "law enforcement sensitive," it has been found at the Outlaws' Fort Lauderdale clubhouse and in Hells Angels email traffic.

    First published May 26th 2015, 10:20 pm

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ldiers-n364731

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    Is this the same agency[s] & media that said returning vets have a good chance of being / becoming Domestic Terrorist?

    For such headlines this incident has disappeared from most places, except for small blurbs on line. One thing pointed out I suggest one does research on a CoC (confederation of clubs) get together. This is not a 1% only get together. If anything Combat Vets, CMR / CMA (Christian Motorcycle Riders, Association) Etc are in attendance. Also where is the photo op collection of weapons confiscated? Who has made bail, who's been released with no charges?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Sounds suspicious to me. especially this part.

    The couple took photos of the scene until an officer asked them to stop. The man says emergency responders were bringing some of the injured right past their truck. Concerned people might still be armed, he says they asked police if they could leave. They were allowed to do so after being searched.

    Really the cop "asked you to stop" BUT did not confiscate the camera that may or may not have pictures of the event ,, mmmm
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    He says he himself has been a lifelong motorcycle enthusiast and owns leathers and chaps - but they are to protect him from the elements and road rash.
    The derp is strong with this reporter....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    The derp is strong with this reporter....
    The whole deal is starting to stink. Insert Gun Show Goes Wrong, 100's detained, THOUSANDS OF WEAPONS CONFISCATED. Far fetched, who knows ?
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    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...nd-reductions/

    Several places are now reporting a very disconcerting claim about the justice system in Waco Texas requesting detainees sign waivers promising not to sue the city for unlawful arrest, detention, and civil rights violations.
    Waco, Texas – Earlier today, detainees in the Jack Harwell Detention Center in Waco were told that in exchange for bond reductions, they must sign a document stating the Waco police “had the right to arrest the inmate and that he/she will not file a lawsuit against McLennan County and/or the City of Waco.”
    If this is true, this is a very alarming demand by local authorities. The requirement to sign a liability release waiver prior to a bond hearing is quite possibly unlawful by itself.

    It would appear, at least on the surface, to be completely unenforceable. I doubt you could find a more succinct example of “signing under duress”, which essentially negates any validity to the waiver itself.

    Secondly, the implication of requiring the waiver prior to release, is itself a tacit admission of wrongdoing on behalf of the arresting authority. It just makes no sense.

    If the detainee represents such a significant threat of non-reappearance, and -in a larger sense- toward the general public; and the detainees’ violation of law so serious as to set their bond at $1,000,000 – how can the simple process of signing a waiver mitigate the underlying premise of their risk/danger?


    ETA: Well, looks like the "waiver" story may be false - confusing explanation here:
    http://www.kxxv.com/story/29211450/f...lds-real-fight
    Last edited by davsel; 06-02-2015 at 13:07. Reason: Update

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    Ya that's going to be a problem if true.
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    More interesting "accounts" coming forth. I stand by the fact that this whole thing stinks, and just as the other "event" that happened in Waco, I don't believe this one as reported...

    (comments on this article are very interesting):
    http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com...s-to-come.html

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...s/#more-101290
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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    More interesting "accounts" coming forth. I stand by the fact that this whole thing stinks, and just as the other "event" that happened in Waco, I don't believe this one as reported...

    (comments on this article are very interesting):
    http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com...s-to-come.html

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...s/#more-101290
    In your first link, I was reading until the "racist mulatto faggot" part. After that, no matter if you agree with it or not, that kind of language just kills all credibility with 99.999999% of readers.

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