New Griffin Universal Supressor

[brutal]

They have adapters so you can use boosters on sd tactical tubes. Kind of expensive but they have them. The whole thing with replacing endcaps and adapters on F1 cans is tricky. If they retain the baffles you legally can't change them or have spares. I guess if you had something else holding the baffles in it might be kosher but even that is a gray area.

What I see in this can is that the same parts hold the baffles in place, everything else, like GK says, is an accessory to the unit.

[mutt]

What I see in this can is that the same parts hold the baffles in place, everything else, like GK says, is an accessory to the unit.

I was referring to home brew cans. I'm not sure if a F1 suppressor can really have such features. ATF likes to treat things like extra end caps as unregistered silencer parts when it comes to us little people who don't pay the SOT. Commercial cans are judged using a different rule book.

[Great-Kazoo]

I was referring to home brew cans. I'm not sure if a F1 suppressor can really have such features. ATF likes to treat things like extra end caps as unregistered silencer parts when it comes to us little people who don't pay the SOT. Commercial cans are judged using a different rule book.

You could do one out of carbon steel, plug weld the blast chamber baffle / spacer and exit side end cap. This gives you permanently installed baffle stack. Allowing you to change end caps. It can be done with a Ti can, providing you have access to someone that can weld it also.

[brutal]

Another vid.

[SouthPaw]

Liberty has also upped their game for the Mystic-X. Same concept, one suppressor for multiple uses.

https://libertycans.net/mystic-x/

The Mystic X was born from a need: the need for a “Swiss army knife” of silencers, so to speak, for first time suppressor buyers. The first time buyer is literally overwhelmed with the amount of intel that is currently available. Due to this problem, we feel that the first time buyer needs a choice that will allow them to “dip” their toe into NFA and be able to have the most versatile suppressor available at the same time. Armed with this idea, we took one of our most popular suppressors, one that has already been adopted by many first time buyers, and improved on it. The Mystic X is the ultimate first time owner’s silencer!Made entirely from Titanium and Stainless Steel and coated with type “C” high temp Cerakote™ this suppressor weighs in at a paltry 10.5 ounces and only 13.9 ounces with a recoil booster installed in it. This suppressor can be “dipped”, ultrasonically cleaned, sand blasted, or soaked in harsh solvents without fear of damage to the unit.
Did I mention that it is also full auto rated? Well it is!!! It is rated for seven different calibers in full auto and 53 calibers in semi auto giving the T/C guys as well as hunters and target shooters a large host of options.
We have developed a series of mounting solutions for the Mystic X to include several booster options as well as many variations in fixed barrel mounting solutions as well. All of the mounts are available in black now as well.
Designed with Dual Arc Baffle technology, the Mystic X is incredibly quiet for a centerfire monolithic core suppressor. Although the real treat is the Mystic X performs really well on so many centerfire rifle and handgun calibers. The 7.62 x 39 and the 300 BLK are prime examples of this. Not only in subsonic, but many rifle calibers are also rated for supersonic speeds as well. 38 Special, 357 Magnum, 357 Maximum or 9×25 Dillon? No problem! The Mystic X loves all these rounds and many more! Being takedown in design, this suppressor is a favorite of people using cast lead bullets. It is well known that lead buildup in the 9mm and 22LR suppressors is a reality and the Mystic X is perfectly suited for this application.

[Great-Kazoo]

Liberty has also upped their game for the Mystic-X. Same concept, one suppressor for multiple uses.

https://libertycans.net/mystic-x/

Nice, wavy flat washer style mono-core. 2-3 hours with mill and program, after turning on lathe.

[mutt]

You could do one out of carbon steel, plug weld the blast chamber baffle / spacer and exit side end cap. This gives you permanently installed baffle stack. Allowing you to change end caps. It can be done with a Ti can, providing you have access to someone that can weld it also.

Has it ever been determined if that is allowed for Form 1 cans - permanently retaining the baffle stack inside the tube allows for swapping end caps and muzzle adapters? One train of thought seems to think it doesn't matter since non FFL manufacturers aren't allowed to have extra silencer parts. If you have 2 endcaps, and 1 can, you have a spare part regardless if you intend to use it on the same can. This is why I go with 5/8×24 threads on my F1 cans and then use a 5/8×24 to 1/2x28 adapters to use on different platforms. The adapter can never be construed to be a silencer part. Of course this only applies to F1 cans. F4 cans are given special allowances.

And to get this thread back on track - yes this is a very cool design.

[davsel]

Has it ever been determined if that is allowed for Form 1 cans - permanently retaining the baffle stack inside the tube allows for swapping end caps and muzzle adapters? One train of thought seems to think it doesn't matter since non FFL manufacturers aren't allowed to have extra silencer parts. If you have 2 endcaps, and 1 can, you have a spare part regardless if you intend to use it on the same can. This is why I go with 5/8×24 threads on my F1 cans and then use a 5/8×24 to 1/2x28 adapters to use on different platforms. The adapter can never be construed to be a silencer part. Of course this only applies to F1 cans. F4 cans are given special allowances.

And to get this thread back on track - yes this is a very cool design.

1 endcap, 1 can, and 1 or more thread protectors

[Great-Kazoo]

Has it ever been determined if that is allowed for Form 1 cans - permanently retaining the baffle stack inside the tube allows for swapping end caps and muzzle adapters? One train of thought seems to think it doesn't matter since non FFL manufacturers aren't allowed to have extra silencer parts. If you have 2 endcaps, and 1 can, you have a spare part regardless if you intend to use it on the same can. This is why I go with 5/8×24 threads on my F1 cans and then use a 5/8×24 to 1/2x28 adapters to use on different platforms. The adapter can never be construed to be a silencer part. Of course this only applies to F1 cans. F4 cans are given special allowances.

And to get this thread back on track - yes this is a very cool design.

Permanently installed baffles are just that Permanent. IF one cannot access / remove / change out the baffles, config of in any way. What ever you do for an adapter should not matter. I have 2 factory / commercial cans the baffle stacks are removable, 1 a 22, the other a pistol mono-core. The end caps come off both, the pistol i am able to change the booster to another thread pitch. However one (IMO) must keep the end cap (Exit end) the same diameter, not being able to change that side at all. Which is what the mfg are doing, with no ATF issues.

You could always write the ATF and ask them

[stenz]

Anyone have an estimate on price?