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    Another question , if you are doing an individual and not a trust what do you have engraved or do you have to at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spdu4ia View Post
    Another question , if you are doing an individual and not a trust what do you have engraved or do you have to at all?
    The individuals name and city and state must be engraved on the frame, receiver, or barrel. Or "recognized abbreviation".

    The National Firearms Act handbook from the ATF website is very good reference book to have. It describes the procedure in detail and mostly plain language on how to do Form 1s and Form 4s as well as a bunch of other NFA stuff. It also has copies of the regulations and laws. link here.
    http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms/firearms-industry/guides/publications-firearms-national-firearms-act-handbook

    The maker must engrave the name city and state. The maker is either an individual or a legal entity such as a trust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAnd View Post
    The individuals name and city and state must be engraved on the frame, receiver, or barrel. Or "recognized abbreviation".

    The National Firearms Act handbook from the ATF website is very good reference book to have. It describes the procedure in detail and mostly plain language on how to do Form 1s and Form 4s as well as a bunch of other NFA stuff. It also has copies of the regulations and laws. link here.
    http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms/firearms-industry/guides/publications-firearms-national-firearms-act-handbook

    The maker must engrave the name city and state. The maker is either an individual or a legal entity such as a trust.
    It's the same info as a trust, only your name John Doe instead of Doe Trust. The booklet SAnd linked is a must have as well as referencing the ATF web site plus one or 2 other NFA (Not the ATF) related sites, like this one. While not the final word like the ATF site. It never hurts to browse.
    https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/
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    Thank you guys
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    If you've never used the ATF eFile system there are websites that walk you through the process step by step with screen shots.

    http://www.stevejenkins.com/blog/201...an-atf-form-1/


    If you search YouTube you will find a number of videos on this process. The following one was produced by SilencerShop

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRbsltM3jyU
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    Can't find a lot of info on e-filing form 1 as an undividual. I think I would rather print It out and send it in with the check and pics and prints and signature like my form 4. Where do I print it out ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spdu4ia View Post
    Can't find a lot of info on e-filing form 1 as an undividual. I think I would rather print It out and send it in with the check and pics and prints and signature like my form 4. Where do I print it out ?
    You can't e-file as an individual. I don't know how or if you can print it out from the e- file thing. You can save it as a draft but when I print a draft out it is watermarked as a Draft.


    Here is a link to the ATF web page with the latest forms on it. The Form 1 is pdf of a blank form that can't be filled in though. You have to print it then fill it out by hand.
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-forms
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    Perfect thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAnd View Post
    You can't e-file as an individual. I don't know how or if you can print it out from the e- file thing. You can save it as a draft but when I print a draft out it is watermarked as a Draft.


    Here is a link to the ATF web page with the latest forms on it. The Form 1 is pdf of a blank form that can't be filled in though. You have to print it then fill it out by hand.
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-forms
    For future reference. If you log in after receiving the e-mail notification your F1 has been Submitted. Click on your current e-file, then print. It will now say SUBMITTED across the 1st page.
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