Moderate Muslims

[funkymonkey1111]

No feelings hurt here, you have just proved yourself to be a complete and utter tool shed.

no, friend, that would be you.

[spqrzilla]

I think the King James translation to English of the 6th commandment is incorrect. The 6th doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill", that would mean that God does not intend for Christians and Jews kill attackers in order to defend themselves. The correct translation would be "Thou shalt not murder" which is something most people/Christians/Jews are loathe to do and God does not want us to do in the first place.

The King James translation is correct. The problem is that when the King James translation was composed, 17th Century English for murder was "kill". Non murder killing was denoted by "slay".

[roberth]

The King James translation is correct. The problem is that when the King James translation was composed, 17th Century English for murder was "kill". Non murder killing was denoted by "slay".

Oh ok, thank you.

I didn't know the KJ version was from the 17th century, no wonder it sounded funny to me when Dad read it after supper.

[68Charger]

The King James translation is correct. The problem is that when the King James translation was composed, 17th Century English for murder was "kill". Non murder killing was denoted by "slay".

This is why the original texts are in dead languages... so they can be an unchanging reference- any language still in use evolves over time (ask Demoncrats about that)

[Great-Kazoo]

This is why the original texts are in dead languages... so they can be an unchanging reference- any language still in use evolves over time (ask Demoncrats about that)

Like a Living Document, such as parchment & quills ALWAYS being the main form of communication.

[Gman]

This is why the original texts are in dead languages...

Hebrew and Greek aren't *that* dead. Aramaic on the other hand...

[Great-Kazoo]

Hebrew and Greek aren't *that* dead. Aramaic on the other hand...

फ़ोर् थे विन्
for the commoner among us. it reads...... Sanskrit, For the Win

[68Charger]

Hebrew and Greek aren't *that* dead. Aramaic on the other hand...

There are more than one form of Hebrew and Greek... Parts of the old testament were written in "Biblical Hebrew", aka "Classical Hebrew" which is a dead form.

Now the New Testament was written in what is now known as koine Greek, which has not totally died out- but it's not the same as modern Greek.
http://orvillejenkins.com/languages/koinegreek.html

[Aloha_Shooter]

फ़ोर् थे विन्
for the commoner among us. it reads...... Sanskrit, For the Win

or Quenya tûr

Sindarin (Elvish) for "Elvish victorious"

[roberth]

I believe the reasoning is in the society at the time you were not home during the day. Occupation/unoccupation is definitely a better distinction, but there is also assumption that someone breaking into a home in day was for property, someone at night was for malice (murder, rape, etc.) And of course with the translation/societal rifts, who knows, that could be how it was originally perceived (occupied/unoccupied).

A good example of that translation/societal rift that most people can associate: " It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to go through heaven." Heard that one before? Sounds like a piss poor metaphor. But, the word for camel, in Aramaic also incidentally means "rope". So let's apply that with the correct translation: "It is easier for a rope to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to go through heaven". That is a more conceptual and visual metaphor, right? One of in-numerous translation f-ups that is still in current publications, and undoubtedly there are many that we don't - and probably won't ever - know about.

Thank you.

More things for me to look up and learn so i understand the history and context.