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    A page on the BLM website, since removed, listed the impacts of Bundy's trespass cattle. Among these were risks to people driving on roadways, destruction of crops on private property, damage to community property in the city of Mesquite, negative impacts on city facilities in Bunkerville, destruction of archaeological artifacts and unauthorized reservoir construction.[54] The regional off-site mitigation strategies of non-governmental organizations were also delayed for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone,[55] and a matching $400,000 grant from the Walton Family Foundation to restore habitat for the southwest willow flycatcher along the Virgin River was delayed on the condition that Bundy remove the trespass cattle.

    found that interesting in the wiki article..
    non-governmental organizations were also delayed for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone,

    looks like someone had other intentions on some of the land too. http://blmsolar.anl.gov/sez/nv/dry-lake/

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    Taking over the building is just bizarre to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    Taking over the building is just bizarre to me.

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    Default The Law & Hammond vs U.S.

    Issue: (1) Whether and under what circumstances the Eighth Amendment authorizes a district court to impose a sentence less than the statutory mandatory minimum; and (2) whether a criminal defendant's waiver of appeal rights made in an agreement to resolve a case prohibits an appeal by the government.

    The Supreme Court refused to hear the petition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Good read. While I can't say that I think the take-over of the .gov facility was the best decision, I can see where it will/has drawn media attention to the facts of the situation. There does seem to be many parallels to this and the Bundy Ranch situation.

    Like Zombie Steve, I'll bite my tongue as to my position on this matter except to say that it's not good all of the way around and likely won't end well.

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    I think the proper term nowadays is they are "Occupying". This way, the left will have their back.



    I've read a little about this stuff. The Hammonds seem like they've been railroaded and from what I've heard they have to sell their property to the feds as part of their "punishment". I'm sure that's what this was all about to begin with. The whole arson thing is a stretch when they were doing "controlled burns" much like the farmers around me do.


    The Bundy's and the militia seem like they are riding the coat tails of this just to stay relevant...
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    There does seem to be many parallels to this and the Bundy Ranch situation.

    Like Zombie Steve, I'll bite my tongue as to my position on this matter except to say that it's not good all of the way around and likely won't end well.

    Prayers for all involved.

    If I am understanding it correctly, it seems that the real focus of both issues is the unconstitutional actions (and possibly even existence) of the BLM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    Moral of the story: Don't burn federal land.
    When the initial issue was ramping up and we had a thread discussing the history of the situation, I recall the Bundy family had been ranching on that land before it was ever declared to be "Federal".
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    I will say that it is completely screwed up to sentence someone, have them serve their time and then after the fact go "Whoops, we should have sentenced you more than we did so you'll have to go back to jail." Other than that, I don't know what else to say other than this is interesting and I will be watching closely.
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    Well I guess the blm and fws get to try out their new swat teams... What can go wrong?


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