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    You open that door and it will be open for the liberals to change or remove the 2nd amendment completely.

    considering the Feds are outright ignoring the constitution completely this will not stop them and will only open things for them to strip us of what little protection we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    You open that door and it will be open for the liberals to change or remove the 2nd amendment completely.

    considering the Feds are outright ignoring the constitution completely this will not stop them and will only open things for them to strip us of what little protection we have.
    I acknowledge this argument, but I simply don't believe that it would happen. You think 120+ million gun owners would just line up to turn in their weapons before getting on the proverbial train cars? I don't. If just .1% of them decided not to comply, it would be an outright civil war. Nobody wants that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    I acknowledge this argument, but I simply don't believe that it would happen. You think 120+ million gun owners would just line up to turn in their weapons before getting on the proverbial train cars? I don't. If just .1% of them decided not to comply, it would be an outright civil war. Nobody wants that.
    It only took 3% of the population to successfully revolt against the British... Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    You open that door and it will be open for the liberals to change or remove the 2nd amendment completely.
    No, just No ... No it won't ... for the thousandth time, an Article V Convention Of The States To Propose Amendments To The Constitution is SPECIFICALLY LIMITED. Its not a full "Constitutional Convention" like what happened in 1787.

    It has written in it, before it begins, the whole notion that "we will propose X constitutional amendments AND ONLY X AMENDMENTS"
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    No, just No ... No it won't ... for the thousandth time, an Article V Convention Of The States To Propose Amendments To The Constitution is SPECIFICALLY LIMITED. Its not a full "Constitutional Convention" like what happened in 1787.

    It has written in it, before it begins, the whole notion that "we will propose X constitutional amendments AND ONLY X AMENDMENTS"
    And you think the liberals won't propose their own changes? You think they won't demand a say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    And you think the liberals won't propose their own changes? You think they won't demand a say?
    The amendments are written BEFORE the convention. They just convene to tweak them and vote on them. I don't think they can tweak the amendments enough to make them bad things (and certainly not do something silly like damage the 1A or 2A). Worst thing they'll be able to do is vote them down.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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