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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    I completely disagree and the fact his happens (not the only case) demonstrates the risk isn't low.
    Then by your argument, the fact that a meteor stuck the earth 10M years ago, killing a large number of the biologics on the planet, means that the risk of it happening again isn't low. Got it.
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    This is just the new Fast n Furious play that Lynch is running.. theft and funneling to the cartels

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    Another thing I just remembered... Bass Pro didn't allow CCW in their stores until late 2012 (IIRC) until a lot of us bitched about it.

    So the company that didn't want you to have a firearm on your person, under positive control, can't even secure their own weapons.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Then by your argument, the fact that a meteor stuck the earth 10M years ago, killing a large number of the biologics on the planet, means that the risk of it happening again isn't low. Got it.
    Gun retailers get hit all the time. It's a known and manageable risk.

    http://abc13.com/news/thieves-rip-of...apons/1225291/

    Asteroid strikes not so much. But it's a good comparison because gun thefts and asteroid strikes are so similar in frequency and risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Asteroid strikes not so much. But it's a good comparison because gun thefts and asteroid strikes are so similar in frequency and risk.
    Things can happen all the time, and still be low risk. Again, the risk is low for the gun shop - they have insurance to pay for the loss.

    But lets not talk about risk reduction vs. risk mitigation vs. risk management vs. risk transference
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Things can happen all the time, and still be low risk. Again, the risk is low for the gun shop - they have insurance to pay for the loss.

    But lets not talk about risk reduction vs. risk mitigation vs. risk management vs. risk transference
    Deductibles
    Premium increases
    Bad press
    Litigation (there is no shield for negligent dealers)
    Potentially losing all or part of the business through regulation (gun control)

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    Occasional scratch and dent sale OR finding employees who don't scratch and dent
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    Police said hunting rifles, a shot gun and other merchandise was stolen from the store. Thieves did not take AR-15 assault rifles like police originally feared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    It is a Liberal argument and it is winning. I said we all hated it. Doesn't change our reality.

    Evil black rifles "falling into the wrong hands" won't do us any favors. This is why the ATF ran Fast 'n Furious, to make sure guns fell into the wrong hands to create data points and heart wrenching tragedies to counter decreasing gun violence.

    We see a failure of gun control in this. Feels driven voters see a need for more gun control.

    Statistics, facts, etc... Won't matter.

    In essence, we become Liberals' self-fulfilling prophecy by being stupid. Leaving firearms openly unsecured in a vacant store known by all to sell firearms is careless if not stupid. Just like none of us leave a gun in the open and unsecured when we leave our homes which are not known by all to have firearms.

    (I am ASSuming that is what happened but I still want to know more)

    I'm not saying the Liberal argument is right. I'm just saying folks shouldn't be stupid because the consequences are broad given the status quo.

    And I never said Bass Pro should be forced to anything different. I said they were careless. I don't believe in a world where people are forced to make good decisions. But it's coming and stupid people are only hurrying it.
    Okay. I don't think I disagree with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua
    Police said hunting rifles, a shot gun and other merchandise was stolen from the store. Thieves did not take AR-15 assault rifles like police originally feared.
    FIFT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    FIFY.
    I copy/pasted from the news site, you fixed it for them, not me

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