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    Quote Originally Posted by Erni View Post
    ITAR was meant to prevent to prevent key tech going to hostile govs. Equipment like rocket motors, guidance and navigation, etc. The fact that some overzelous junior lawyer has been greenlighted to apply tgis at the BPT level is a travesty.
    Oh, like the rocket technology that Bill Clinton allowed to be provided to China?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Oh, like the rocket technology that Bill Clinton allowed to be provided to China?
    Rockets? Tip of the iceberg - China got whole miniaturized nuclear warhead designs out of the Clinton DoD.
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    Eh, just keep doing what you're doing, when they try to complain say you didn't "intend" to break the law. Hillary Defense ftw!

    (*Note, I'm not a lawyer nor play one on TV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circuits View Post
    Rockets? Tip of the iceberg - China got whole miniaturized nuclear warhead designs out of the Clinton DoD.
    I think it was 8 nuclear warhead designs that were "stolen", but Slick Willie signed off on the missile tech. China also made large donations to the Clinton foundation. Coincidence? Seems like quid pro quo to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    Eh, just keep doing what you're doing, when they try to complain say you didn't "intend" to break the law. Hillary Defense ftw!

    (*Note, I'm not a lawyer nor play one on TV)
    The Hillary defense only works if you've got Hillary $$ and Hillary connections.

    I would go for the Chewbacca defense myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    The Hillary defense only works if you've got Hillary $$ and Hillary connections.

    I would go for the Chewbacca defense myself.

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    I read the letter; I didn't realize this was an old law and went this far. This could get real ugly if the prohibited activities was interpreted to as person engaged in and not in the business of.

    I know a few people who do gunsmithing on the side, and this really hurts. The federal government is out of control. Is that insanely high fee legislatively directed or is a regulatory declared fee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I think it was 8 nuclear warhead designs that were "stolen", but Slick Willie signed off on the missile tech. China also made large donations to the Clinton foundation. Coincidence? Seems like quid pro quo to me.

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    I currently have this directive being reviewed by an I.T.A.R attorney.
    I will complete work I currently have but until I get a clarification I will not be bringing in any new work aside from the very most basic tasks as defined by the directive.

    This sucks, I have bills to pay.


    Hey, but it will all get better under Hildabeast right?
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    Grrrr. Please keep is posted.

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