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    What did the 911 dispatcher say when you told them about this when you spoke to them at 0131 AM?

    Please tell me your first thought wasn't to grab a gun and go outside to confront a bunch of total strangers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Please tell me your first thought wasn't to grab a gun and go outside to confront a bunch of total strangers.
    I was going to shine a 4D cell mag light on them from inside the front door and tell them to shut up and move along.
    The pistol was going to be at my side behind the door just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    What did the 911 dispatcher say when you told them about this when you spoke to them at 0131 AM?

    Please tell me your first thought wasn't to grab a gun and go outside to confront a bunch of total strangers.
    ^^ THIS ^^ is the right answer for many reasons. But allow me to wax poetic for just a minute..

    In the scenario you described, going to your door/outside, with a handgun, to confront an unknown number of potential neerdowells. What exactly were you going to do with the (hand)gun (yeah, you said keep it inside while you made a really good target of yourself)? I am asking out of pure curiosity and not trying to demean.

    So lets break this down.

    Did you know, before you went to potentially confront them, that these neerdowells:

    • had the ABILITY to kill or do serious bodily injury to yourself or another?
    • that someone was in JEOPARDY of being killed or being seriously harmed by said neerdowells?
    • that these neerdowells had the IMMEDIATE OPPORTUNITY, and power, to kill or seriously harm someone


    Based on your quick write-up, my thinking is NO to all three. Granted I wasn't there and I am only going by your quick words. Even if you could have said YES to all three of those, could you CLEARLY ARTICULATE your justifications under intense and immediate pressure? Don't know you, but I am going to guess probably not.

    So if those are the case, why would you bring a gun and escalate the situation? Granted, you have the right to. But, if things would have escalated into you exchanging gun fire - your inability to answer a resounding and clear YES to the above three points would probably mean a bad time for you. If you were going to keep it, and you, inside - then why would your make yourself a really easy target? I am not a lawyer, and again not trying to cause issue, just someone who is curious and trying to figure out the thought process behind this.

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    Now with that out of the way. Lets get to the choice of weaponry. You saw multiple neerdowells, in vehicles, already in a stable and fortified position - whose tensions were clearly escalated. And you brought a handgun? An HD at that (whether or Sig P238HD or a Hi-Standard HD .22 is unclear? These seems illogical and really really dumb to me. Granted I am Monday-morning quarterbacking here. But, the situation you described calls for a rifle, a semi-automatic one, with many many rounds at your disposal. Multiple potential assailants attacking from fortified positions... and you brought a pistol?

    Maybe that is all you have -- but if that is the case, it is EVEN MORE REASON why you should have stayed in your room, called 911 and been a really good witness.
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