PRESIDENT TRUMP!

[Skip]

Odds are a deal was struck after the debacle the D's suffered election night. Hillary agrees to concede, not contest at any time the electoral results and she does not get prosecuted.
Be the easiest way to remove clinton from politics, Permanently

Strong possibility given how things played out. Initially Podesta took the stage to say they were waiting until tomorrow to concede, then Hillary made the call to Trump. At ~1:30AM I thought they were leaving the door open for another 2000. But then conceded. I was surprised.

Also possible is that the transition is incredibly fragile and deals are being made to ensure things go smoothly. An honest investigation of Clinton would lead back to Obama.

But one thing I don't agree with is that Hillary (or Bill) have been removed from politics. Chelsea and her hedge-fund-failure husband have no other means to survive than through Clintonesque graft.

[CS1983]

Odds are a deal was struck after the debacle the D's suffered election night. Hillary agrees to concede, not contest at any time the electoral results and she does not get prosecuted.
Be the easiest way to remove clinton from politics, Permanently

I guess we'll see. Or maybe he's just laying low until he can go full Nuremberg on her. I'd like the hanging to be on national television.

[Tremek]

If you guys think Trump's really going after Hillary you're deluding yourself. Since the election he's flip-flopped more than any GOP candidate in recent history. Wouldn't be surprised if he turns a blind authoritarian, narcissistic eye towards 2A limitations too. As a reminder, strongmen don't like the populace having guns.

[CS1983]

If you guys think Trump's really going after Hillary you're deluding yourself. Since the election he's flip-flopped more than any GOP candidate in recent history. Wouldn't be surprised if he turns a blind authoritarian, narcissistic eye towards 2A limitations too. As a reminder, strongmen don't like the populace having guns.

Highly possible. That being said, what GOP candidate in recent history was worth much more than the Democrats anyway?

[Skip]

Highly possible. That being said, what GOP candidate in recent history was worth much more than the Democrats anyway?

Bush let AWB '94 sunset. Dems had wanted a renewal.

When the Beltway Sniper hysteria hit, he and his admin made it about terrorism not guns.

The Roberts's Court gave us Heller and MacDonald. And while we still have that Court, Obama pressured the Court violating its autonomy.

I'm no Bush cheerleader but the difference on gun rights was significant compared to the last eight years.

[Bailey Guns]

Bush let AWB '94 sunset. Dems had wanted a renewal.

No...congress let it sunset (as was written into the law). Bush said he'd sign a renewal/extension if one was sent to his desk.

And in answer to the "Republicans = Democrats"...I think that's just nonsense. For a lot of the same reasons Skip mentioned. Granted, republicans certainly have their issues. But they're generally a damn sight better than democrats. I would've taken 4 years of Romney over the last 4 years of Obama any day.

[Gman]

The left is still making a big deal about the popular vote. Clinton now has more than 2 million votes than Trump. This might be important for those that aren't educated in how our system actually works.

So...California really, really, really wanted Clinton. Whoopty friggin' do!

[CS1983]

No...congress let it sunset (as was written into the law). Bush said he'd sign a renewal/extension if one was sent to his desk.

And in answer to the "Republicans = Democrats"...I think that's just nonsense. For a lot of the same reasons Skip mentioned. Granted, republicans certainly have their issues. But they're generally a damn sight better than democrats. I would've taken 4 years of Romney over the last 4 years of Obama any day.

There's more to life than guns and taxes, my beef is with the praxis
For starters, there's that little war, and a made up evil axis
What changed from 94, to September in '01?
An excuse, good sir, that's all it was
And on the world stage, it produced an epistaxis



The Republican party can only appear conservative because of how far down the crapper America has gone morally and socially. From Bush 1 and 2, to Allen West talking a big game and going up the hill to crumple under the weight of DC, they have no love from me. They're better than the Democrats, yes. But losing an arm is better than losing both. It doesn't make the loss of the arm per se good.

[Bailey Guns]

The Republican party can only appear conservative because of how far down the crapper America has gone morally and socially. From Bush 1 and 2, to Allen West talking a big game and going up the hill to crumple under the weight of DC, they have no love from me. They're better than the Democrats, yes. But losing an arm is better than losing both. It doesn't make the loss of the arm per se good.

I don't disagree and that's exactly what I said. But, that's basically the only viable choices we have with our system right now, whether we like it or disagree with it, or not.

Hey...at least with republicans I still have an arm.

[Skip]

There's more to life than guns

[snip]

No.

I'm fairly convinced guns are the only thing keeping us from going full-tilt Communist/totalitarian. That is why for the last eight years rifles have been targeted. Rifles win wars. Anyone concerned with gun violence would be fixed on handguns. And they aren't. They want a monopoly on violence so they can do nasty but necessary (in their shared mind) things.

Take a trip out to social media, read the anger/hatred, and tell me I'm wrong. And while I really do hope I'm wrong, it wouldn't surprise me in the least for us to find ourselves in a might makes right reality very soon.