So what is your take on the Alt/New Right?

[SG1]

I want the US to pick the best-of-the-best when it comes to immigration. We don't need illiterate, disease-ridden peasants from any country.

How else are Democrat going to get voters, cucks going to signal?

[SG1]

That's fine, but we need to remove our collective head from butt on education and push STEM hardcore before we do that. It's typically a good idea to clean up one's own house before inviting people to come in.

Without Question, make colleges teach not spew cultural marxist lies...But we have loads of STEM workers looking for work, the idea that their is a shortage is a total lie pushed by Tech Giants who want more and more "cheap" labor. We need to end H1b visa system.



Wealthy foreigners want to come with their money, start businesses, yeah allow them in, maybe give them citizenship if they meet a few requirements.
Allow in maybe the top 10% of the 10% of doctors, scientist, engineers, etc. After that? Close the door.

Let the left scream and cry themselves to death, This nation is for us, and if others do not like the idea that they can not move here their is nothing they can do about it.
And if that means we have to remove that unauthorized plaque on the Statue of Liberty, update a few history books and tell a bunch of fools with rose colored glasses they are fools, so be it.

We have a Golden Opportunity to secure our future, our nation, and the blessings of Liberty for ourselves and our Posterity, the meaning and reason for this nation`s creation, let us not squander it due to lies, myths, subversive groups both alien and native and sentimentalism.

[Ronin13]

My answers to your points in red...

9/11 was caused by the actions of a guy who felt snubbed because America "protected" Saudi Arabia from Saddam instead of the Kingdom using a fellow Muslim, never mind us being in the Middle East, Funding Israel, etc.
False, 9/11 was caused by someone who got pissed off because he saw western presence in the "holy land" as an affront. We have had long standing treaties and agreements with the Kingdom of Saud since the 1930's, and were asked by the King to protect Saudi lands from Saddam Insane. How OBL reacted is his problem, not ours.
I want us to be totally dis involved with the Middle East, All of it, Israel as well. We have no right to do so, we have no need to do, it does nothing but creates problems that cost us trillions of dollars, countless lives and the very Liberty this nation is founded.
We helped to create (or re-create) the modern state of Israel. We owe it to them to stand by our greatest and most beneficial (possibly only true) allies in the region.
That being said they attacked us, we should have bombed them back to the stone age (so we would be bombing them forward in time?) from the air and gone home, fuck rebuilding them.
Surgical and strategic bombing doesn't work without follow through. It would be like spraying for termites but failing to go after their nest.

Somalia? Total failure, we are not "Team America World Police!" (But I will say America Fuck Yeah!) we have people living in poverty here in America, why not help them? Never mind the fact it gave those morons cucks in the churches an excuse to import these people as "refugees" who require welfare until the die they die, commit massive amounts of crime, have active terror cells in America, and who gave us Al Franken (who was the 60th vote for Obamacare) (Their are alot of them in Minnesota because cucks/Churchian love to import poverty, crime, terrorism because "Muh feels and I fear being called names more then having my nation/rights stolen from me) SOB won by 300 votes (Refugees voting illegally, legally, and some felons (but the Russians hacking elections happen all the time, but voter fraud does not exist)
I agree that we should help those in need here. But at the time we were assisting a UN mission to bring food to people in Somalia during a humanitarian crisis that hadn't been seen in decades. When the Marines withdrew that's when the warlords targeted the peacekeepers. Somalia wasn't a failure, it was abandoned. We lose 28 troops and pansy Clinton withdrew instead of doubling our efforts and hitting harder.

Rwanda? Do not care. Just proof Colonialism had its valid points and gun control will never work as people will just use something else.
Rwanda was a genocide that killed at a rate 250X faster than Hitler did... Just let that go? There were armed Belgian and Canadian UN Troops there, able to stop it, and no one did anything. I believe Burke was very correct: "Evil flourishes when good men do nothing." To that I would add, "can you call a man good if he does nothing in the face of evil?"
Not waiting to play world police does not make you "Isolationist". And it worked O.K until the Japs went full retard, Charles Lindbergh warred that a war would result in the destruction of the Western World and would result in the spread of Marxism via cultural institution, was he wrong? No, he was damn right and it was a foolish war as was the 1st world war that lead by direct or non directly to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people.

Then you have an obligation to fight it yourself, on your dime. Their is always some "evil" that needs to be slayed. Maybe you should read your Washington, do not go out in search of dragons to slay, why? Because at best its a waste of money and lives because you going to "find" a dragon (while non exists) at worst you destroy what you claim to value (freedom, national sovereignty, your people) or you create dragons that destroy them for you (Taliban as an example)
I read Washington, but you have to realize that he was around when we had no real power to act on foreign affairs. Morally he probably would have supported stopping evil if we had the means. And persisting a "dragon" doesn't exist, when it clearly does, and doing nothing about it until that dragon comes to your home (9/11) is only inviting disaster. I would rather root out the enemy before it has a chance to strike.
Funny how the Holodamor or the evils of the USSR purges never come up, I wonder why?

As for Iraq.....Hey...How did that work out? Turns out you can not spread Democracy to some groups because they lack the cultural software/biological hardware to understand/value it.
Iraq was done at a bad time, for justified reasons, but we should have finished the job in Afghanistan first. There is much contention over the presence or non-presence of WMDs in Iraq. Saddam had them, no question (don't believe me? Find a Kurd who was alive in 1993 and ask them), but we didn't have 100% containment of the Iraqi borders, thus he was able to get them out prior to the invasion (as an Iraqi general stated). Where do you think Assad got the chemical weapons he used against the rebels? I'm thinking he took the labels that said "made in Iraq" off before use.
Peter Theil summed it up best, we could have gone to the Moon/Mars, instead we went to the Middle East. Let savages be savages, so long as they are somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

As to everyone clamoring that we should obliterate Mecca, Medina, and Riyadh- you think we have a lot of Islamic problems now? Go ahead and destroy their holiest sites, and then you'll see a BILLION Muslims rally against the US and 9/11, San Bernardino, Paris, etc. will look like a freaking paddy cake game compared to the onslaught that would come our way.

[SG1]

My answers to your points in red...


Then you have an obligation to fight it yourself, on your dime. Their is always some "evil" that needs to be slayed. Maybe you should read your Washington, do not go out in search of dragons to slay, why? Because at best its a waste of money and lives because you going to "find" a dragon (while non exists) at worst you destroy what you claim to value (freedom, national sovereignty, your people) or you create dragons that destroy them for you (Taliban as an example)
I read Washington, but you have to realize that he was around when we had no real power to act on foreign affairs. Morally he probably would have supported stopping evil if we had the means. And persisting a "dragon" doesn't exist, when it clearly does, and doing nothing about it until that dragon comes to your home (9/11) is only inviting disaster. I would rather root out the enemy before it has a chance to strike.
Funny how the Holodamor or the evils of the USSR purges never come up, I wonder why?

As for Iraq.....Hey...How did that work out? Turns out you can not spread Democracy to some groups because they lack the cultural software/biological hardware to understand/value it.
Iraq was done at a bad time, for justified reasons, but we should have finished the job in Afghanistan first. There is much contention over the presence or non-presence of WMDs in Iraq. Saddam had them, no question (don't believe me? Find a Kurd who was alive in 1993 and ask them), but we didn't have 100% containment of the Iraqi borders, thus he was able to get them out prior to the invasion (as an Iraqi general stated). Where do you think Assad got the chemical weapons he used against the rebels? I'm thinking he took the labels that said "made in Iraq" off before use.
Peter Theil summed it up best, we could have gone to the Moon/Mars, instead we went to the Middle East. Let savages be savages, so long as they are somewhere else.

As to everyone clamoring that we should obliterate Mecca, Medina, and Riyadh- you think we have a lot of Islamic problems now? Go ahead and destroy their holiest sites, and then you'll see a BILLION Muslims rally against the US and 9/11, San Bernardino, Paris, etc. will look like a freaking paddy cake game compared to the onslaught that would come our way.[/QUOTE]


In order...

We helped to create (or re-create) the modern state of Israel. We owe it to them to stand by our greatest and most beneficial (possibly only true) allies in the region.

Really? How so? Before they were our "greatest ally" in the region, we have no real enemies in it. More over how are they our friends with pulling crap like getting involved on our politics/elections, spying, stealing/selling weapons tech, never mind the USS Liberty...

More over if some Americans want to help them, why not end our aid and allow you to give your own money by choice?

Surgical and strategic bombing doesn't work without follow through. It would be like spraying for termites but failing to go after their nest.

True, Islam is the problem, we can not fight it short of wiping it out....So quarantine is the net best option.

I agree that we should help those in need here. But at the time we were assisting a UN mission to bring food to people in Somalia during a humanitarian crisis that hadn't been seen in decades. When the Marines withdrew that's when the warlords targeted the peacekeepers. Somalia wasn't a failure, it was abandoned. We lose 28 troops and pansy Clinton withdrew instead of doubling our efforts and hitting harder.

Really...Ok, lets play this game, lets say we come in and we dd say...What then? Do we nation build? What would have happened?

Rwanda was a genocide that killed at a rate 250X faster than Hitler did... Just let that go? There were armed Belgian and Canadian UN Troops there, able to stop it, and no one did anything. I believe Burke was very correct: "Evil flourishes when good men do nothing." To that I would add, "can you call a man good if he does nothing in the face of evil?"

Well why did they not stop it?

How old were you? Why didnt you fly over and do something? I was around 6 so that was my reason more over its not my problem. If its not something its another, so unless someone comes over, tells these people "HEY! KNOCK IT OFF OR WE ARE GOING TO KILL BOTH OF YOU, NOW GET BACK TO WORK!" nothing is going to change. All you are going to be doing is cleaning up mess after mess after mess wasting lives and countless billions for Nothing.

I read Washington, but you have to realize that he was around when we had no real power to act on foreign affairs. Morally he probably would have supported stopping evil if we had the means. And persisting a "dragon" doesn't exist, when it clearly does, and doing nothing about it until that dragon comes to your home (9/11) is only inviting disaster. I would rather root out the enemy before it has a chance to strike.

Just because a Dragon exists does not mean it posses a threat, nor is it your job to slay it, nor does it mean you have an right to force other fight it against their will.

And if we stayed out of the Middle East and did not allow immigration from the Middle East it would not have happened. The Invade the world/Invite the World is clearly inviting disaster in into this nation, so is the idea of Pathological altruism as foreign policy.

Saddam had them, no question (don't believe me? Find a Kurd who was alive in 1993 and ask them), but we didn't have 100% containment of the Iraqi borders, thus he was able to get them out prior to the invasion (as an Iraqi general stated). Where do you think Assad got the chemical weapons he used against the rebels? I'm thinking he took the labels that said "made in Iraq" off before use

Find me proof it was Assad and not a false flag by ISIS to try and get us to ride to their aid by taking out Assad for them?

More over, how did Iraq end again?

I mean you have Haiti (19??-1930s), Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, all nation building, all total failures. At what point do you stop, look, learn, and apply what you did learn?

As to everyone clamoring that we should obliterate Mecca, Medina, and Riyadh- you think we have a lot of Islamic problems now? Go ahead and destroy their holiest sites, and then you'll see a BILLION Muslims rally against the US and 9/11, San Bernardino, Paris, etc. will look like a freaking paddy cake game compared to the onslaught that would come our way.

And we would round and up deport Muslims in this nation...

You really think they will not use nukes/WMDs when they have them? And when they use them just half ass it?

Plus, if they do that the public will not only turn a blind eye but it will openly encourage the deportation of muzzies from the West, hell they might even join in.

This is the end result of mass immigration/multiculturalism... Diversity+Proximity=War. You would think we would have learned the lesson by now but it just appears we need to be taught a few more times. Islam has a place in the world, the Middle East not world and sure as Hell not the West.



If I can ask, if you have your views, why have you not put them into practice? Why have you not flown to Africa and taken matters into your own hands like "The Machine Gun Preacher"?

[TheGrey]

Just what IS it with you and this insult word, "cucks" SG1? And who exactly is it meant to encompass?

[Irving]

I'm interested to know, SG1, if you feel you would qualify for citizenship in this country, by your current standards, if you were an immigrant.

[jmg8550]

I'm still trying to decipher his use of "more over". Or how it's actually spelled- moreover, it's one word, not two. We could start a drinking game with his use of that word.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm still trying to decipher his use of "more over". Or how it's actually spelled- moreover, it's one word, not two. We could start a drinking game with his use of that word.

Wherever he chooses to play the game i'm in, whenever you decide where it will happen. Moreso, plan on it taking place in warmer weather

[SG1]

Just what IS it with you and this insult word, "cucks" SG1? And who exactly is it meant to encompass?

Well it was a very effect term to sum up people on the right before cuckservative was created.

A cuckservative is a self-styled "conservative" who will cravenly sell out and undermine his home country's people, culture, and national interest in order to win approval with parties hostile or indifferent to them.


It means conservatives who are afraid of social exclusion and kowtow to the liberal media establishment. They play the left’s game of identity politics, accusing their internal opponents, such as Donald Trump, of being racist or sexist or rapey for spurious or opportunistic reasons.

Rather than have the back of their allies or tell the left to worry about its own members, such as Barak Obama, Bill Ayers and Al Sharpton, the right has given the left moral authority.
Moderates hate the term for it's accuracy, as it taps into frustrations the conservative base has about the Republican Establishment’s capitulation or even silence on the issues that matter most to so many voters.

If this has not answered your question, I will answer further.

[SG1]

I'm interested to know, SG1, if you feel you would qualify for citizenship in this country, by your current standards, if you were an immigrant.

Why does that matter? I mean really, just because I was born here means I can not advocate for a very strict immigration system?

America exist for Americans, The reason why this nation was founded and build upon was so people would leave something to THEIR posterity, not anyone who just showed up one day. Its never wrong or amoral to keep out any group of this nation anymore then it is to keep them out of your home.


But to answer your question the standards would be high, why take less the the best?


Ideological test

Basic tests based on political views, ask them their stance on issues hooked up to a lie decorator, those that align with Traditionalist American views (Support limited government, lower taxes, property rights, uninfringed gun ownership, freedom of Association, etc) at least 75% will pass on to the next level of screening.

People can have any values, ideals, politics they want.... Just somewhere else. We have no obligation to let in subversive peoples, groups, ideologues into this nation.

Health Test

Battery of tests, blood work, etc. No major illness or defects will be granted entry.

Self Sufficiency Test

Min asset in the bank will be no less then $50,000 or equivalent in U.S Currency, denied any welfare services.


Maximum cap at 200,000 new people per year

Maybe base the numbers taken from each nation on the 1910 or 1930 census.


Any issue with those listed?

What would yours be?