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    Fascism at its finest. Where laws protect corporations more than the people it is suppose to serve. What should happen is the FAA suspend United Airlines flight operations for a month...

    http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wire...plane-46720980
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    Fascism at its finest. Where laws protect corporations more than the people it is suppose to serve. What should happen is the FAA suspend United Airlines flight operations for a month...

    http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wire...plane-46720980
    Why would they do that? The flight was "Republic Airlines, operating as 'United Express'?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    Fascism at its finest. Where laws protect corporations more than the people it is suppose to serve. What should happen is the FAA suspend United Airlines flight operations for a month...

    http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wire...plane-46720980
    You're complaining about fascism but you're OK with a gov't agency suspending a major airline without due process?
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111 View Post
    yeah, fuck your pilot friend. it's that b.s. attitude of "if you cross me it's a felony" that escalates the idiotic tension on planes. If i never set foot on another commercial airliner it'd be fine with me--listening to some a-hole glorified bus driver telling me what the wind direction is. Who, in the history of being a passenger on a plane, gives a crap about the wind speed and wind direction? "oh shit, it's blowing 19 miles from the east in denver--i guess i'd better not eat that second bag of peanuts!"

    and as for over booking, i understand how these flying bus lines want to hedge their bets.
    but have you been on a flight since 9/11 that has had an empty seat? maybe it's just that i'm going places that people want to go, but i can't remember a vacant seat on any flight in the last 15 years.
    The airline didn't write the law, they just use it to their advantage. So, saying "nice things" about his pilot friend really just reflects on you. Not trying to call you out, but sharing some friendly advice.

    Empty Seats? Yeah, normally...

    8/10 of the last flights I have been on have had empty seats. 5 of those I have had the entire row to myself.

    Flying to major destinations like Vegas, BWI, San Fran, Etc...

    It's all in when you fly. Even when I had to fly for a company, basically every week, I could arrange my flights so I had a much more relaxed flight.

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    My last United story is a lot less dramatic but I'm still reluctant to book them for any kind of flights. Back in 2000 when I was still in the National Guard I did an Annual Training with a unit out of California. Flew commercial to LA and then met the unit, from there we went over to Korea for 3 weeks and then came back. Our return flight was booked on United, flying back on a Saturday as I had to be back at school and work on Monday. Well, we got to LAX around 8:00 am Saturday, only to find that our flight had been cancelled for some reason.

    I asked if we were automatically rebooked on another flight and was told that no, we had to re-book ourselves. So they offered to rebook us on another flight that didn't leave until something like 7:00 that night. I said that was unacceptable, we needed to get back to Denver, and they said they could book us through Phoenix on a flight that would leave mid-afternoon. So we hung around the airport for another 4 or 5 hours, only to find that the Phoenix flight had also been cancelled and now it was impossible to get us on the 7:00 Denver flight. We ended up leaving for Phoenix around 6:00 pm, only to get to Phoenix and find that our flight there was also delayed.

    When all was said and done, I think we got back into Denver around 1:00 AM on Sunday and I calculated that if we had simply cancelled our flights, rented a car and drove the ~18 hours or so it took us for this ordeal, we would have been back in Denver about the same time.
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    Maybe could have been handled better. Oh well. It wasn't United proper, but a contractor. It wasn't United staff that pulled the guy out of the seat, it was the PD. Interesting that neither Republic nor the PD are getting pounded over this.

    What was wrong with all the passengers on the plane? Hold on there, I probably am not going the direction you think on this. How many lazy, self-centered, faceybook thumbdowners were sitting on that plane just hoping that someone else will pull the bozo ticket rather than them? They all knew 4 someones were going to be bumped and still no one took the payment offer. Seriously? NO ONE on a plane load of people can take a later flight? Then, when an elderly dude is picked, refusing to leave and causing an issue, STILL no one will stand up and say "I will take his place, let me get my stuff and I will step off"? or even "Hey stewardess, I am leaning toward getting off, can you ask the airline to sweeten the deal a bit?". Nope, just gonna sit here, like life is happening on the internet, and comment on how rude or rough the PD is being to the dude who is just so important that he cant accept his seat number was picked. Oooh, thumbsdown United, those corporate bastards. frowny face, cause that'll really make a statement.

    A piece of standard carriage contracting, well pretty much any service agreement contracting, that bothers me is the current trend to bury everything in 800 pages of complex legal lingo that you are expected to fully read and understand in a short time period. Sure, bloat it up so people will just scroll through and say OK rather than understanding what they are reading. Yep, I do it too, but.... when I get caught in the crack and stung for having not read it, I suck it up and accept the consequences. I suspect many companies are hoping that the safety blanket wall of text will protect them, but I see more and more issues where the client doesn't understand the contract and the social media hammers the company. Maybe it is still just a cost of business, but I imagine that the number crunchers at United are looking at that very closely today.

    The real losers in this whole pile of overblown crap..... United shareholders. Oh wait.... anyone wealthy enough to own United shares has to be a 1%er so eff those guys! Amiright!?!

    I have to fly for business. I will still fly United before anyone else. Was a frontier aficionado for years, til the buyout screwed them up. Cant stand the Southwest cattle call seating, otherwise I would fly them more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    You're complaining about fascism but you're OK with a gov't agency suspending a major airline without due process?
    Details aren't important...

    It's all about "my rights" and "what I get" in this thread...
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