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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    While you're probably 99% true, there are a few people I've met online which is developing a new middle ground. A few on both sides realize that things are going crazy, and that the powers of government are out of control. A few former Obama supporters have come forward realizing that the Pen and Phone precedent was great when it was working for them, but bad now that Trump's in office, and are catching on that perhaps neither side should have those abilities. Same for other actions by Congress, etc.

    Yeah, it's very tiny and you're right that there's a huge polarization, but I still try to maintain just a smidge of hope.
    A polarization that I think hasn't been seen since 1861.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyEgo View Post
    This democrat-republican shit is getting as bad as religion. The more heated everything gets, the more the extremists on either side feel license and support to take action. I'm pretty sure that 99.9% of those who identify themselves as Democrats are just as horrified as those who identify as Republicans. And yet rather than build common cause around that feeling, it took about 30 seconds for everyone on either side of the spectrum to assume their talking point positions. I'm tired of all fucking sides.
    Uh, yeah...that's why they're called extremists. On the other hand, since November, which side has ratcheted up violent rhetoric, and violence, as a means of making a political statement? That's right...democrats. And not just the extremists. We have so-called comedians holding a likeness of the president's severed head. We have plays that depict the killing of someone that looks suspiciously like the president. We have pop singers talking about how shes thought of blowing up the white house. Riots. Destruction of property.

    The left is completely unhinged. Out of their fucking minds. The right has never behaved this way, as a group, during my lifetime anyway. So don't try to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The left and right are not the same. The don't behave the same, they don't believe in the same things, they have opposite visions for the country.

    We are bombarded with calls from the left, and not the extreme left either, for calls of unity, tolerance, stop the hate, blah, blah, blah. They don't mean that shit for a second. Sure, they want unity. On their terms. Fuck that. It's akin to the leaders of the former Soviet Union saying they just wanted peace. Sure they did. They wanted peace when they'd spread their brand of communism across the planet.

    Anyone who believes the left and right are the same is a fool.

    Having said all that, I don't blame anyone on the left what for what this asshat did any more than I blame the gun. He owns it. All of it. Not Bernie Sanders or anyone else...unless he had help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    A few former Obama supporters have come forward realizing that the Pen and Phone precedent was great when it was working for them, but bad now that Trump's in office, and are catching on that perhaps neither side should have those abilities.
    That realization is temporary. The next time they are in the majority, they'll start to appreciate that precedent again and likely expand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    http://www.dennisprager.com/americas-second-civil-war/
    https://townhall.com/columnists/denn...olent-n2320819

    The majority of the population sat-out the first Civil War, while others died for what they believed in.
    The second will be the same.
    Only bloodier.

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    I agree that there are "extremists" on both sides of the political spectrum. That being said, instigating violence to further political and social agendas is an act owned most completely by democrats and the ideological left. I identify as a libertarian, with the constitution as my basis for government and statism as my enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Looks like Democrats are doing their damnedest to start a civil war.
    Maybe setting things up....

    I believe there are some truly despicable people in politics.

    Hodgkinson was a disenfranchised, white male, over 55, with anger problems and a tenuous grasp on reality. Not the kind of person the bleeding hearts bleed for. He was however, willing to take up arms against government officials. All the left needs now is for someone like him to target law enforcement while at a large protest full of special snowflakes who feel so wronged by the MSM and social media to have the potential for another Kent State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    News flash: We have been in an ideological Civil war for a long time.
    ...and there you have it.

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    Reports coming out that he used an SKS not a "M4" as originally reported.

    Color me surprised....

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    If we lined up the opposition on one side, us on the other. Well...it wouldn't be much of an engagement. It would be bloody, yes, but we'd give them a whole lot more than they would give us. Sure would hate to see it come to that. Mark my words, if it does, it will because the progressive Liberals forced our hand.
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