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    Just got this. What a pain in the A$$

    Dear XXXXXX,
    You are receiving this notice because you recently purchased an Apex Tactical trigger for the Sig P320 pistol (MidwayUSA product numbers 686935, 293153, 972729).

    Due to Sig Sauer’s recently-announced voluntary upgrade of the Sig P320 pistol, Apex Tactical has suspended sales of their Sig P320 aftermarket triggers. Apex Tactical asks Customers who have purchased an Apex Sig P320 Trigger to stop using the trigger and to please contact Apex Tactical Customer Service at (623) 322-0200 to return the trigger in exchange for credit towards any other Apex product.

    We apologize for the inconvenience,
    MidwayUSA Customer Service

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    XM17 <> P320

    The hysteria is over a weapon that never (technically) went through the MHS trials. Shame on Sig if they knew this was a weakness which they chose to address in the XM17 but not the P320.
    Hmmm ... the hysteria I see is over a the P320. The thread title is about the P320. You're the one injecting the XM17 into this and then asking vets if it was okay for weapons to be dropped. Bottom line, there appears to be a fundamental design error in the P320. Sig is addressing it but the fact remains the P320 can exhibit ADs that other similar striker-fired pistols do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Hmmm ... the hysteria I see is over a the P320. The thread title is about the P320. You're the one injecting the XM17 into this and then asking vets if it was okay for weapons to be dropped. Bottom line, there appears to be a fundamental design error in the P320. Sig is addressing it but the fact remains the P320 can exhibit ADs that other similar striker-fired pistols do not.
    I interpreted this...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Is it okay? No. Does it happen? Yes. The firearm should be designed to against commonplace incidents and a falling firearm falls into that category IMO. If it didn't, the military wouldn't have drop tests in the first place. This incident shows they should have additional drop tests spec'ed not that the drop tests conducted by others are irrelevant.

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    ... as more confusion between the testing the military did for the MHS on the XM17 and the commercial P320. The "they" isn't clear to me within the context of military testing if it didn't mean military.

    AFAIK there is no industry respected independent laboratory for commercial firearms testing. Maybe there should be? But that would only highlight the differences between military testing and others which are being ignored.

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    http://americanshootingjournal.com/s...grade-program/

    Yes, Sig Sauer will replace every P320 trigger, sear, and striker assembly in the wild. In addition, every slide and frame in every caliber must be machined to fit the new parts.
    Based on SIG’s disclosure that the company’s shipped 500,000 P320’s, our back-of-the-envelope estimate says the program could cost SIG as much as $30m if we assume the cost of parts, labor, and postage for each pistol is around $65. Add to that the cost of administering the voluntary upgrade program.

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    $60 per gun... I think that might be low.

    I'm betting people are not getting their exact slides and frames back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    $60 per gun... I think that might be low.

    I'm betting people are not getting their exact slides and frames back.
    All the more reason mine won't be going back. Magwell, sites, trigger, magazine release are all aftermarket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    All the more reason mine won't be going back. Magwell, sites, trigger, magazine release are all aftermarket.
    The Frame/Chassis is the serialized part of the handgun on the P 320, the slide I believe is serialized to the frame as well
    Sig has had enough bad PR without them swapping folks slides, and grips around. I would be suprised if they didn't do these one at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    The Frame/Chassis is the serialized part of the handgun on the P 320, the slide I believe is serialized to the frame as well
    Sig has had enough bad PR without them swapping folks slides, and grips around. I would be suprised if they didn't do these one at a time.

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    I thought the trigger mechanism was the serialized part on the 320, and you could buy a new frame for $44 on Sigs website?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    I thought the trigger mechanism was the serialized part on the 320, and you could buy a new frame for $44 on Sigs website?
    The trigger group=frame= chassis. The grip is non serialized and can be purchased for sub $50.

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