Why The Vegas Shooting Happened, and Why Men Keep Doing This

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This is what I notice as well, and along those lines, most people in our society have policed ourselves but that is changing;

I think that's been posted before and it makes a lot of sense.

I always challenged atheists... If I'm wrong, I'll I've done is tried to hold myself to an objective standard. OTOH, look at what moral relativism has won us. Suddenly the "sky wizard" ain't so bad.

Sort of, but sort of not. The narcissism face of Cluster-B generally wants worshiped for doing nothing and they lie, manipulate, cheat and steal to do it. Sure, some can be competitive (there are plenty of lazy ones), but they rarely care about actually being the best. Narcissism just = worship.

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That's the key.

There is nothing wrong with being self-interested, wanting to be good at something, or wanting to be successful in general. When I go to work, I work hard to be successful and that is a put off for a lot of people these days (for multiple reasons) but it's because I expect the reward and thus work to get it.

I have been told this is narcissism by actual narcissists.

I wouldn't take something I'm not entitled to nor would I manipulate someone into giving it to me. I will insist on having what I've earned.

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OTOH, look at what moral relativism has won us. Suddenly the "sky wizard" ain't so bad..

Sky wizards and their followers cause a significant loss of life nowadays.

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Sky wizards and their followers cause a significant loss of life nowadays.

Not really. And if so, certainly far less than the Atheists of the last century.

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Sky wizards and their followers cause a significant loss of life nowadays.

Would you say more or less than 100,000,000?

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Would you say more or less than 100,000,000?

Hard to say. Islam has killed an awful lot of people in the past couple decades alone.

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Hard to say. Islam has killed an awful lot of people in the past couple decades alone.

Outside of Islam? Order of 10K

People killed by secular, moral relativist governments in the 20th century alone: Order of 100M

(At least we think. Mao and Stalin didn't keep good records on their solutions).

Also interesting... I can think of exactly one time Muslims disarmed their opponents prior to genocide (Armenian genocide). Not counting the current coalition of Dim/Libs/Muslims in the US/West, this is rare. Maybe that is changing? They certainly like gun free zones.

But secular governments have all disarmed their people prior to genociding. It's a prerequisite.

So this fight for "gun rights" is really more than just that. And I think we probably all agree whether we can articulate it in our own way or just feel it knowing human nature. The kind of damage a Cuomo or Clinton do eliminating people who don't belong or irredeemables (their words messaging their fantasies to their base) dwarfs the damage done by religion. And those words are Lib dog whistles for exactly what they want.

If we really trust a moral relativist secular government, we have no need for guns outside hunting. Heard that one before? That's exactly how Libs see it because that is the government they are building.


ETA: Since I mentioned the Armenia genocide... The Promise is a great movie that covers this and was well done. PG-13 but I wouldn't watch it with anyone under 16 in the room.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4776998/


Has some good actors in it, Hollywood shunned it. Remember how they fawned over Schindler's List (another good one IMHO)? Yeah, this is not history Libs want people to know.