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Go to their website, you can do it online now
DD214 still counts as proof of firearms proficiency, but you still need a club (or proof of shooting in a competition) to show participation in shooting activity.
Sadly no DD214 for me as I chose poorly and went to college right as Iraq V1.0 got started in 1990
So for me its the BLGC proof and my CCW as well as some Ispc documents.
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Not to hijack your thread but I was wondering if anybody has bought a rifle from fulton armory? I bought a cmp garand in 2003, but had to sell it due to money concerns. Now I am in the market for a new one and I'm debating if I'm going to go the cmp route or but one from a company like fulton armory.
USMC 2000-2004, OIF
Never have, but have heard good things. I have bought two CMP Garands and have loved them both. Solid shooters.
Um, no. Eligibility for CMP is based on membership in affiliated clubs, not proof of shooting in competition (although most affiliated clubs DO sponsor related competitive shooting like John C. Garand matches). Affiliated clubs usually pay CMP a fee (although certain kinds of clubs like Boy Scout units, school rifle teams, etc. that can get free affiliate status) but that registration gets their members the necessary eligibility. If you're retired military, a photocopy of your retired ID is good enough. I joined GCA when I first hooked up with CMP but my membership in GCA lapsed and I switched over to just showing them I was active duty military. When I retired, my retirement status was good enough to retain my eligility to buy Garands, M-1 Carbines, Greek surplus .30-06 ammunition, commercial .22 LR ammunition, and most recently a .177 air rifle.
http://thecmp.org/about/
If you use BLGC or other clubs, you will have to resubmit proof of membership as your membership expires (GCA does this automatically).
@Fmedges, Fulton Armory is also a good source for Garands. You don't require proof of eligibility to buy from Fulton but you will pay more as they basically go through a refurbishment process. When I first started with CMP, you could get service grade Garands quite easily. These days, the only service grades they have are Springfields or the odd H&Rs but they do have some field grades and other specialty categories. Service and field grades have all been inspected and functionally tested. If all you want is a shooter, you can't beat a service grade late production Springfield (or even a field grade) for the price but you may get a stock with various dents and gashes. You may also need to do some work yourself to improve the accuracy of the gun. Fulton will pretty the rifle up and tighten up its accuracy so you'll pay a markup over the CMP price but many collectors and competitors will tell you it's well worth the price ($2000 vs. $730). If you already have established CMP eligibility, I wouldn't suggest paying the markup unless you need Fulton's services in improving accuracy beyond original standards.
FA posts an email and picture they received from one of their customers showing his 5-shot group at 1000 yards using his "Titan" (their version of an AR-10):
If you can shoot very well already but need their services to accurize the gun then by all means buy from them.
From the CMP site requirements for purchase:
1) proof of citizenship
2) proof of age
3) membership in CMP affilicated organziation
4) MARKSMANSHIP OR OTHER FIREARMS RELATED ACTIVITY:
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sa...-requirements/You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures. Your marksmanship related activity does not have to be with highpower rifles; it can be with smallbore rifles, pistols, air guns or shotguns. Proof of marksmanship participation can be provided by documenting any of the following:
- Current or past military service.
- Current or past law enforcement service
- Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
- Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor).
- Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status.
- Concealed Carry License.
- Firearms Owner Identification Cards that included live fire training. - FFL or C&R license.
- Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included live fire training.
- Certification from range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity.
No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60. Proof of club membership and citizenship required for all ages. NOTE: Proof of marksmanship activity is not required for purchase of ammunition, parts, publications or memorabilia.
Last edited by DenverGP; 11-27-2017 at 16:50.
Key phrase in there: "or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures". The itemized list you cited clearly shows you don't have to participate in competitive shooting. I've had eligibliity established with them for 17 years now without providing them my scores or participation certificates from any matches I've been in, without taking part in their clinics, without providing them my NRA Instructor credentials or CCW permit or Hunter Safety Card. Membership in GCA or proof of veterans status was enough -- I didn't even have to give them my marksmanship training record from my military service.
Right, DD214 counts for the "You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures."
Membership in GCA would not satisfy that requirement.
On my CMP purchase, i sent in
- birth cert for age and citizenship
- GCA membership card for CMP affiliated organization
- DD214 for the markmanship/firearms related activity.
Last edited by DenverGP; 11-27-2017 at 18:56.
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