Body-Cam Video Of Daniel Shaver Shooting

[Irving]

All of my dust covers say things like "I'm sorry," or "I wish things could have been different," or "I never wanted this." Some of them even say things like "See that game last night?" and "On your left!"

[Bailey Guns]

For some strange reason I believe you.

[Scanker19]

All of my dust covers say things like "I'm sorry," or "I wish things could have been different," or "I never wanted this." Some of them even say things like "See that game last night?" and "On your left!"

Where do you get these? I would actually have these hahahahaha

[TFOGGER]

I believe I want one that says"Close before flight"...

[OtterbatHellcat]

Hell, I don't think I want anything like that on the dust cover. If they can read it, they most likely killed you and now have your weapon.

Why not something like "Eff off", or "I hope you die choking on a dick"?

[Joe_K]

https://youtu.be/_AQndX39JMs

I've been waiting for this video, I think this is an excellent break down of the legalities surrounding the recently-concluded criminal court proceedings.

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[Joe_K]

https://m.facebook.com/taprack.tacti...83248931985963

Bill Blowers assessment of this unfortunate incident. If you don't know who Bill Blowers is, well then go square yourself away.


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[CS1983]

We can all see what he's saying from the video. But rewatch it. "Keep your hands up" immediately followed by orders to crawl. Well, which is it? That's contradictory and complicates matters. What was up with the holier than thou tone of voice and peppered phrases adopted by the Sergeant, in combo with the increased tension in his voice, raising to freak out levels? Why the fast and complicated instructions that contradict. The whole thing was utterly retarded and did not have to go the way it did. Both come out together, but female first. Why? Because of ambiguous instructions. This complicates their detainment plan. He makes a guess that they would have had her walk backwards, hands up, and then detained. And then they would have had him exit the room, walk backwards, hands up, and then detained. After the female was detained, what prevented them from executing the original supposed plan? Fields of fire were clear.

[Joe_K]

We can all see what he's saying from the video. But rewatch it. "Keep your hands up" immediately followed by orders to crawl. Well, which is it? That's contradictory and complicates matters. What was up with the holier than thou tone of voice and peppered phrases adopted by the Sergeant, in combo with the increased tension in his voice, raising to freak out levels? Why the fast and complicated instructions that contradict. The whole thing was utterly retarded and did not have to go the way it did. Both come out together, but female first. Why? Because of ambiguous instructions. This complicates their detainment plan. He makes a guess that they would have had her walk backwards, hands up, and then detained. And then they would have had him exit the room, walk backwards, hands up, and then detained. After the female was detained, what prevented them from executing the original supposed plan? Fields of fire were clear.

Did the events leading up to the shooting suck?
Yes.

Was the shooting legally justified?
Yes.

Should Mr. Brailsford face imprisonment or the death penalty because the Sergeant in charge was a prick?
No.

Should he face imprisonment or the death penalty because he shot and killed Mr. Shaver?
No.

Should Mr. Brailsford have been in Law Enforcement in the first place?
Probably not.

Should the Mesa PD adopt and enforce simpler detainment/arrest SOP's?
Yes.

Did Mr. Shaver make several dumb decisions the day he was killed? Absolutely.
Guns + Alcohol. Not a good mix.
Pointing guns out of windows not good.
Lying about being drunk to Police. Also not good.
Lying about being able to follow instructions. Not good.
Disobeying Law Enforcement commands. Also not good.

As an aside if my wife found out I had been drinking in a hotel room with a woman that was not her, being shot and killed by Police would be the least of my worries. Hell hath no fury and all that. Not saying he deserved to be killed, just looking at it objectively.

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[Irving]

Everyone knows that you're supposed to just agree with police in the street to not make them mad. So what does it matter if he lied about being drunk, or lied at all?
Also, he probably could have followed orders, if they weren't designed for failure.
Did he actually have a gun? Was he actually pointing it out the window? <-- I really don't know.
Guns and alcohol not mixing is irrelevant if he didn't fire a gun while being drunk.