LOL Israel

[theGinsue]

You really do look for every opportunity to stir the pot; don't you Irving?

[Irving]

No, it's just that too many Californians are moving to Israel. 50 years ago Israel would have just boarded that ship with flame throwers, punted all the infants over board, then wiped their asses with the peace flags. I don't know what all this "discretion" is about but it is making them look like pussies and ripe for the taking by communists.

[BigBear]

I actually have to agree with Stu here...

They "have" to be discretionary because our POTUS won't back them up and their surrounding nations are looking for any excuse to wipe them off the face of the earth.

[Irving]

As long as you know that I was aiming for sarcastic and obtuse...

[BigBear]

As long as you know that I was aiming for sarcastic and obtuse...

Damn nope.... see, that's why everyone needs to use the smiley thingys... I'm a very literal person unless I see something along the lines of:

[Irving]

It was a comment about the difference between using restraint and taking the higher road, and just looking to avoid confrontation and hurt feelings. Israel could have just wiped everyone out, but they didn't. Now, you've got people all over saying,
"Wow, those guys stood firm on their point, but they also didn't needlessly kill everyone and were still able to convey the seriousness of their position."

One can point out that less than first world countries like Russia or NK would have just sunk all the boats, and give those actions a nod of the head. However, you know that acting like Gangas Khan and killing everyone would have been over the line, caused infinitely more problems, and dashed any of the credibility for the blockade.

At the end of the day, who do you respect more? Russia, for the things that they do? Or Israel for the things that they don't do?

[hollohas]

Funny.

I don't know jack about fast roping but I thought that it looked like they weren't very good at it after I saw this video on Fox News. The angry mob holding the end of the rope aside, the second guy down the rope took so long to get down (10 seconds after the first guy by my count), the first guy was left hanging. I know you don't want to jump on your buddy's head, but come on, get your ass down there and help him out already.

[Irving]

All I know is that this kind of thing never happened in Rainbow Six.

[HBARleatherneck]

i have fast roped a million times (maybe not literally a million) and I allways came down very fast, 10 times faster then they did.
but,
I did not get out of the helicopter and get down the rope and see my buddies being beat down, and a mob waiting for me to come down. So, I would probably have put the brakes on and thought twice about speeding my descent in to hell.

Oh and fuck the terrorists and thier friends.

[theGinsue]

No, it's just that too many Californians are moving to Israel. 50 years ago Israel would have just boarded that ship with flame throwers, punted all the infants over board, then wiped their asses with the peace flags. I don't know what all this "discretion" is about but it is making them look like pussies and ripe for the taking by communists.

I actually have to agree with Stu here...

Oh, heaven help me for saying this... me too!

As long as you know that I was aiming for sarcastic and obtuse...

I'm not.

At the end of the day, who do you respect more? Russia, for the things that they do? Or Israel for the things that they don't do?

Okay, so I respect Isreal more, but not for the reasons you listed. Given the reasons you listed, I'd have to select Russia because they did what had to be done, they spun their own version of what happened, knowing that most wouldn't believe it, and they have remained steadfast and unapologetic about it.

Of course, Isreal isn't as big and strong overall as Russia is and they have enemies knocking on EVERY one of their borders without the U.S. willing to have their back anymore. Sad because I agree with them (Isreal).

Oh and fuck the terrorists and thier friends.

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