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    I guess I don't understand how the hell anyone is falling for this thing in Denver, there is a state preemption law in place and this "law", it's a city ordinance and nothing more, is by definition illegal and apparently nobody is doing a damn thing about it besides laughing and joking. Granted I guess it will have to be tested in court, but the point is the State should be smacking the City/county of Denver upside the head, and they aren't. That's far more concerning to me than the rest of this circus.


    Colorado Revised Statutes § 29-11.7-103 provides:

    A local government may not enact an ordinance, regulation, or other law that prohibits the sale, purchase, or possession of a firearm that a person may lawfully sell, purchase, or possess under state or federal law. Any such ordinance, regulation, or other law enacted by a local government prior to March 18, 2003, is void and unenforceable.

    Colorado Revised Statutes § 29-11.7-101(2) refers to the regulation of firearms as a matter of “statewide concern” and declares a need for statewide uniformity of regulation in the area of firearms. That statute also declares that inconsistency among local jurisdictions has an extraterritorial impact on state citizens and the general public.5

    Moreover, section 18-12-105.6(2)(b) provides that:

    [n]o municipality, county, or city and county shall have the authority to enact or enforce any ordinance or resolution that would restrict a person’s ability to travel with a weapon in a private automobile…while traveling into, through, or within, a municipal, county, or city and county jurisdiction….
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Someone walking into a police station with a bag of thumbs might not be on his way with beer money as quickly as he'd like.
    This isn't a buy back- it's extortion "give us the items and we won't fine you $100-999 and/or throw you in jail"
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    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    I guess I don't understand how the hell anyone is falling for this thing in Denver, there is a state preemption law in place and this "law", it's a city ordinance and nothing more, is by definition illegal and apparently nobody is doing a damn thing about it besides laughing and joking. Granted I guess it will have to be tested in court, but the point is the State should be smacking the City/county of Denver upside the head, and they aren't. That's far more concerning to me than the rest of this circus.
    I don't think it has ever been challenged in court but Denver claims a preexemption to the state laws as Denver existed before the state. I heard some talk that there was even an agreement with the state giving Denver the right to opt out of the state laws that was arranged when Colorado was formed.
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    Colorado Constitution pdf. Article XX, Section 6 addresses Home Rule.
    https://www.colorado.edu/bfa/sites/d...NSTITUTION.pdf

    It has been through the courts often. This may help if you a understand lawyer-speak. I don't understand much lawyer-speak so I have no idea if this is a reliable source of information--
    https://legisource.net/2011/11/03/wh...s-in-colorado/

    What it says is sometimes Denver laws can over-ride Colorado State laws.
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    It's interesting that they were NOT able to override the CCW law, but supposedly can run amok over other 2A liberties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    It's interesting that they were NOT able to override the CCW law, but supposedly can run amok over other 2A liberties.
    I don't know that they really can...just no one really has spent the $ to challenge it.
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    Good to know on the Denver thing, it's screwy as all hell but just reaffirms my general distaste for going anywhere near the place.

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    .....the State should be smacking the City/county of Denver upside the head, and they aren't.
    CO is a liberal tax-slave state now, that's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XC700116 View Post
    I guess I don't understand how the hell anyone is falling for this thing in Denver, there is a state preemption law in place and this "law", it's a city ordinance and nothing more, is by definition illegal and apparently nobody is doing a damn thing about it besides laughing and joking. Granted I guess it will have to be tested in court, but the point is the State should be smacking the City/county of Denver upside the head, and they aren't. That's far more concerning to me than the rest of this circus.
    Unfortunately we are not talking about firearms, but rather about accessories and magazines.
    Could that be why the famous Denver Assault Weapon Ban was always only about magazine capacity and not specific firearms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Someone walking into a police station with a bag of thumbs might not be on his way with beer money as quickly as he'd like.
    Or by taking off your pants.
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