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[MrPrena]

MrPrena:
I agree with everything you said up to the part in red. This is by no means a pissing match and am impressed with your memory of math from 14 years old, I wish I was as cognizant with my memory.

1" = 1 MOA :is the quick dirty standard that is easy to understand for the masses, even if not accurate, but it is close. To make matters even worse there are a couple scope makers using "SMOA" (shooters minute of angle) where they did in fact make their clicks true 1/4" values at 100yards and one of them was selling their products as true MOA scopes.


Both MOA and MIL are angular measurements, not distance measurements.



I'm still trying to figure out how you got 5.73" for 1 MIL at 100yd because everything is correct prior to that line...............

Borrowed from looserounds.com http://looserounds.com/2015/01/19/mo...med-up-nicely/




Going back to the OP, her scope is in MIL's so any talk of MOA is not helping her and from what I'm reading she is a newbie at any type of distance shooting and any talk of MILS and MOA is confusing. For her purposes she needs to get the scope mounted and zero'd for 100 yards and practice until she gets good repeatable precision and accuracy. Then she can start talking about longer distances and what the MIL hashmarks in her scope do, but until then this is all wasted talking points.

no problem.
Yeah, 1.04" 0.04" at 100yd is so insignificant that we as shooter adopted 1"=y @100yd as 1minute of angle.

Tan A=y/x

A=1mrad=MRAD= 0.0572958 degree (~0.573)
x (hor dist of target)=100yd
y= how much difference

x tan A=y
(100yd) tan (0.0572958)= y
100y=0.001
y=0.1yd
(36in/1yd)

y=3.6" at 100yd

Conclusion: Sorry, my TI89 was not set up as deg. therfore I made an error.

(tan (0.0572958) in radian keep coming up as same number )

[hurley842002]

Well now the OP is sure to be thoroughly confused. I still hold firm on the idea that she should have stuck with irons and focused on the basics first...

[Grant H.]

Simply put:

1 MOA is 1" at 100yds, and 10" at 1000yds.

1 MIL is 3.6" at 100yds, and 36" at 1000yds.

Your scope has .2 MIL adjustments, which means that each click is .72" of movement at 100yds or 7.2" at 1000yds.

Since you bought a MIL/MIL scope, ignore the MOA discussion. Learn the system that your scope operates on, and move forward with training.

[hobowh]

MOA is actually 1.047" at 100 yards and so forth. not so important at 100 yards, but at 1k that .47" could be the difference in a vital/non vital hit.
For Mildot there is a descent article here http://www.mil-dot.com/articles/how-...il-dot-reticle

Simply put:

1 MOA is 1" at 100yds, and 10" at 1000yds.

1 MIL is 3.6" at 100yds, and 36" at 1000yds.

Your scope has .2 MIL adjustments, which means that each click is .72" of movement at 100yds or 7.2" at 1000yds.

Since you bought a MIL/MIL scope, ignore the MOA discussion. Learn the system that your scope operates on, and move forward with training.

[Grant H.]

MOA is actually 1.047" at 100 yards and so forth. not so important at 100 yards, but at 1k that .47" could be the difference in a vital/non vital hit.
For Mildot there is a descent article here http://www.mil-dot.com/articles/how-...il-dot-reticle

You are correct. 1 MOA is actually 1.047" at 100 yds and 10.47" at 1000 yds.

However, for someone who is just learning, and learning on a 16" AR, the difference of less than .5" at 1000yds isn't important or relevant.

[SuperiorDG]

One thing I think would help a lot is to dry fire, rifle supported like when you at the range, with a quarter balanced on the end of your barrel. Do it until you can pull the trigger without it falling off and keep doing it. There is a video out there that shows this drill but I can't find it.

[CS1983]

We used to do that with dimes for Sgt's Time training. Goal was to get to the point where you could dry fire 10x in a row from prone unsupported without the dime falling off. It's possible to even charge the weapon without it falling off if your support arm is steady.

[CoGirl303]

I'm a newbie to shooting with a scope.

I qual'd at Ft. Jackson, SC in BCT with iron sights. 29/40, 1st time go, w/ no practice and coming out of the base hospital after a 9 day stay for bacterial pnuemonia right from the 2nd day of BRM.


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[KevDen2005]

I'm a newbie to shooting with a scope.

I qual'd at Ft. Jackson, SC in BCT with iron sights. 29/40, 1st time go, w/ no practice and coming out of the base hospital after a 9 day stay for bacterial pnuemonia right from the 2nd day of BRM.


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Not bad with no practice and new to the system. I'm sure you had to qualify multiple times during your service (assuming you're out).

[CoGirl303]

I was completely new to rifles when I joined. Had never even fired a handgun.

The only experience I had at the time was with shotguns for trapshooting, rabbit and pheasant/quail hunting.

Sadly, my military service was cut short due to shattering my left foot in AIT. I had stress fractures from basic that were misdiagnosed as plantar fasciitis. Ran up a stack of logs at AIT during training and jumped off and when I landed, all everyone within 10 feet of me heard was a sickening crunch. One of our DS's was standing 4 feet away and he told me not to move and that it would be ok. Ambulance came and hauled me to the base ER at Ft. Eustis, VA. They cut my boot off and sent me to X-Ray which was brutal due to all the positioning and situating of my foot. 36 different fractures of the cessamoid bone and adjoining toe bones and a few others I can't remember. 6 months in a cast. Army gave me the boot AND the walking boot on my discharge day. 20% disabled.

I was a 68Y (AH-64D Apache Avionics/Electrical/Weapons Systems Tech.) Was in just barely under 11 months total. blah.


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