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Only solution I can think of
I guess we have to install metal detectors in schools like the airports have. I had to go through a metal detector at the Stapleton airport in 1976 to get on the plane. I was 17 and on leave from the Air Force. The guy in front of me set off the detector. He showed the security agent a Denver PD badge and said he was armed. She said "I have to let you through" to him.
Metal detectors would do the trick, as long as they are hardened. A metal detector does zero good if a determined person starts their spree with the person running the metal detector.
"There are no finger prints under water."
I could never wrap my head around unarmed security next to a metal detectorOriginally Posted by Irving
It's like modern day gold panning. BEEP BEEP BEEP "I'll take that, so I can pawn it later." Why would someone panning for gold need to be armed?
"There are no finger prints under water."
I'm all for arming staff and having some additional security measures as long as they are practical. Maybe even recruiting armed volunteers from the parent pool of the schools. But bullet proof doors? On all doors on all schools? I hope you're planning on paying for that. And what happens when, after we bankrupt ourselves installing all this hardened security, the next nut-job down the line decides to wait til the kids come outside and get on busses? Or he decides to shoot up the playground? Or he decides to do whatever, outside the school, because the doors are bullet proof?
And I'm adamantly against age restrictions being more strict than what they are now. Age restrictions are not going to stop someone from killing. And BTW...there isn't anything remotely resembling "common sense" when it comes to more gun control. I can't think of a single instance where a law stopped anyone from shooting up a school.
Seriously? If this is what passes for common sense, we're fucked. Just what we need. A pro gun-conTroll person on the forum.
ETA: That's not even counting the number of bullet proof or resistant windows and walls that would need to be added. I'd venture to say that if someone shot into a full classroom, even through a wall so he couldn't see inside, plenty of people inside would probably be hit.
Last edited by Bailey Guns; 02-21-2018 at 17:13.
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ABC news is reporting that the armed school resource officer took up a "defensive position" outside and never entered the building. Spent over 4 minutes hanging out in safety while kids got murdered.
Why does that sound familiar?
Columbine. But you knew that.
ETA:
School cop who 'never went in' after shooting has resigned
MIAMI — Broward Sheriff Scott Israel said Thursday the school resource officer stationed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas was suspended without pay after he learned the deputy never went into the building when the shooting began.
Scot Peterson chose to resign and retire Thursday morning Israel said.
“I am devastated,” Israel said. “Sick to my stomach. He never went in.”
In addition, the department released records that show that multiple agencies had warning signs that Nikolas Cruz was troubled.
Israel said two other deputies, Edward Eason and Guntis Treijs are also under investigation and have been put on “restrictive duty.”
According to Israel, Peterson remained outside Building 12 for about four minutes. The shooting lasted about six minutes, he said. When the shooting began the deputy was inside the school handling a matter with a female student.
A review of surveillance video showed that the deputy was in position and armed but never entered the building. He remained stationed outside the building while the shooting went on.
Israel said Peterson should have “Went in. Addressed the killer. Killed the killer.”
He said the video was part of the investigation and Israel said it may never be released.
On Feb. 14, deputies say Cruz, 19 walked into his former school and opened fire with an AR-15 killing 14 students and three teachers.
Last edited by Gman; 02-22-2018 at 17:36.
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I wish technology solved people issues. It seems to just reveal them.
-Also Me
and similarly in Orlando- Security guard traded shots with the perp outside the club, but did not pursue the gunman inside to continue the engagement.
Well that is disgusting. I thought it was pretty clear knowledge that these killers give up or end it themselves at the first sign of resistance.
Way to go deputy!
I have a feeling a lot of other crap is about to come crashing down on Sheriff Israel's department here soon. He knows it too and that is why he is trying to gain as much support as he can with this gun control push down there. He thinks that is a political winner and has hitched his wagon.
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