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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrey View Post
    If you read the article, it clearly states the father was 53.

    Surprisingly, people that age often DID bring guns to school- usually they were left in their vehicles to go hunting later. Before you jump to conclusions that I'm making excuses for him, I am explaining that there is a competely different mindset that goes with growing up with that outlook. To those of that mindset, guns are NOT frightening; they are a tool, just like a hammer or screwdriver. Just like leaving a screwdriver in a backpack, the annoyance factor of having to go retrieve it is likely at the forefront of a person's mind, not the fact that he's not got any way to hide it after he gets it from the kid's backpack. Was it a bonehead move? Yes. Will we know why he put the gun in his kid's backpack? Not likely. Maybe they went to the range the day before, and they used the backpack to carry stuff, and forgot to empty it. Maybe the kid grabbed the wrong backpack. Are you really trusting a fricking single news story, without checking to see what other information they've helpfully omitted so you can read it through their filter, to make the decision to unilaterally revoke his right to bear arms?

    Did he make a mistake? Yup. Did he compound that mistake by his follow-up actions? He definitely did, and now he's got a record and will be a damn pariah because of it.

    Does that justify the suggestion that he should never own a gun? That he lose his right? Hell no.
    How about people that speak up against the majority opinon? Should they lose their right to the first amendment?



    I bet you're disappointed. You should probably get used to that. Not everyone is intolerant, as judgmental, as uncompromising, and as willing to take away other people's rights as you seem to be.

    If you read through the comments, you'll see everyone agrees that he screwed up. The difference is that nobody agrees he should lose his rights to own a gun because of that error. Do you think that he should also lose other rights, too?

    I'm sure you've never made a mistake before.

    Let me break things down to you in a different way. Let's say that Bob is driving from Cheyenne to Denver. Bob is a law-abiding citizen; he's never killed anyone with his car, he pays taxes, votes, raises his family quietly, and is pretty unnoticeable most of the time. Bob is driving, allows his attention wander for five seconds, and is suddenly speeding seven miles over the speed limit.

    A CSP pulls him over.

    Is this disastrous? No. COULD there have been an issue? COULD he have KILLED someone with that vehicle? DID he break the law?

    By your logic, he should have his license revoked. Why?

    This is the logic of liberals. They're awful disappointed in the attitude of many of the posters on the board, too.

    You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
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    Unfortunately 303 won't see me agreeing with you, because I've been ignored for disagreeing with her zero tolerance, holier than thou, state of mind.

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    I think we can all agree:



    ...also, I thought the Rocky Mountains would be a lot rockier...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Hurley, stop selling dead birds to blind kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    I wonder what would have happened if the guy called the PD first and told them to meet him at the school because he believed he may have accidentally left a gun in his kids bag. Would he have been charged? Maybe, but at least he didn't possess the weapon on school property himself. My guess is sticking in his waistband was a panic move.
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    ^bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman78 View Post
    ^bullshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Cops can be friendly, but they're not looking out for you.
    Not so. That's a very broad blanket statement, and one that's rather insulting to a number of LEOs on this board. The truth is, nobody knows what would have happened had he called the police and let them know. He may have been arrested, but there are a number of other outcomes that may have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrey View Post
    Not so. That's a very broad blanket statement, and one that's rather insulting to a number of LEOs on this board. The truth is, nobody knows what would have happened had he called the police and let them know. He may have been arrested, but there are a number of other outcomes that may have been.
    ^^^This. Last I checked nobody here has a crystal ball.

    @Ridge: Also, I do understand that in the event you are looking at possible criminal charges, yes the police are not there to help you, they are there to do a job and determine if a crime has been or is being committed. If you are are being investigated for possibly committing a crime, then shut up and lawyer up. Otherwise, yes, the police help a lot of people, every day. That is also part of their job. If you don't like being lumped into the broad category of dumb Fudd gun owners like the progressive Liberals think we all are, I suggest not doing the same towards our law enforcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrey View Post
    Not so. That's a very broad blanket statement, and one that's rather insulting to a number of LEOs on this board. The truth is, nobody knows what would have happened had he called the police and let them know. He may have been arrested, but there are a number of other outcomes that may have been.
    You're right, I worded it poorly (common theme for me lately).

    Cops, by and large, are good folks who want to improve their cities. The leadership, is what is pushing them away from public safety and towards public enforcement. Police chiefs, sheriffs and city councils/mayors use cops as a source of revenue nowadays instead of helping the people.

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