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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
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    You guys really think that the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc can't already crack any encryption used by the general public or businesses???

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    Are you suggesting it's a false narrative just to get the public to openly agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHA-LEE View Post
    You guys really think that the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc can't already crack any encryption used by the general public or businesses???
    They can pick a lock too, but I'm not into the idea of just giving them a key to the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHA-LEE View Post
    You guys really think that the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc can't already crack any encryption used by the general public or businesses???
    I'm sure the .gov can. They likely could easily decrypt military grade encryption in a war-time scenario. I think they've been looking for cover so that they don't have to admit that they can already crack the devices.
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    I don't think this is well known but when companies sell products that generate encryption they MUST give their encryption process and algorithms for deploying encryption to the FCC to legally sell it. Any "Off the Shelf" encryption products or services consumers can buy have already been circumvented by this FCC requirement. Rest assured that pretty much any encryption currently being used in a commercial product manner can be cracked by the government by either brute force number crunching or having the bulk of the equation spoon fed to them by the FCC.

    Encryption used by consumers is pretty much like the TSA. A weak attempt at pretending like some kind of security is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    I'm probably already on like 18 lists. At this point, my goal is simply to give their DBAs carpal tunnel.
    I have to go back to my SF86 when I need to learn about myself... I wish the Chinese would just have it indexed by Google to make it easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by th3w01f View Post
    I have to go back to my SF86 when I need to learn about myself... I wish the Chinese would just have it indexed by Google to make it easier.
    Yeah, I looked up an old clearance while doing my current one. I'd completely forgotten I'd lived in 2 places until I read it on my SF86. Lol.
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    It's already been said, but the .gov can already crack all of this, they just can't legally use it in a court of law like the San Bernadino case.

    The only thing that encryption does is buy you time. Kind of like a gun safe.

    Good encryption? Having a TLTR-30 rated safe in your house. It takes a higher class of criminal to get into it, and it takes them time. But they're getting into it.
    Nearly ALL SOHO encryption? LOL. The Stackon Gun cabinets with the key taped to the back... Any half assed criminal is going to walk off with your crap if they want it.

    Once you've taken products through FIPS certification, you start to understand just what encryption is for. It's there to keep the lowest common denominator out of whatever is encrypted.

    Don't delude yourself either. The .gov/.mil/etc all use the same "good encryption" that can be broken into by that same higher class of criminal. Hence why most rely on the SCIF mentality to actually protect sensitive/important information. (Denying access in the first place)

    We should all be against the legal precedent that they can decrypt our information and use it in a court of law. It's called the 4th Amendment.
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