CU Boulder Pronoun identification selection

[CoGirl303]

How do you know? Do people *choose* to be pedophiles, pederasts, etc.? Do people *choose* to be necrophiliacs? Do people *choose* to be transamputee (or whatever the term is for people who have a mental illness that says their true self is missing a leg, and thus they chop it off). Do people *choose* to be $whatever?

The natural, biological norm is to be a heterosexual. While one may not choose a temptation away from that, in any degree, they do choose to *act* on said temptation.

How do I know? I won't publicly say, but if you want to message me we can discuss it.

The biological norm may very well be heterosexual, but homosexuality in animals and humans alike have been around for thousands of years. Transgender people have also been around just as long, but surgical advances were not readily available until the past 100 years.

Pedophiles...I'm not sure how that works to be honest, but regardless whether that's a choice or some misconfigured brain wiring, a chemical imbalance or a genetic defect...it's against the LAW. PERIOD. I know there's a disgusting liberal movements to "normalize" pedophilia and I am 100% against those movements.

I'm fine with people who are LGBTQ. It is their life and they are free to do as they want (as long as it doesn't break the law or cause physical harm to others). Love is love to me.

I draw the line at child porn, pedophilia and bestiality. Those should ALWAYS be illegal PERIOD. FOREVER.

I think one of the things that people are finding it hard to deal with is the fact that they are being asked (and 'asked' is sometimes masked as 'demands') to conform their behavior to other people's decisions. What I'm finding difficult to understand is not in the transgender change, but all of the new pronouns that encompass...gender-free? "Xir"?

A physical change is one thing. If someone changes themselves from male to female or female to male, it's he to she, or she to he. Got it. But the gender-free? I don't understand the need.

From the OP: "Students may select from the following options in the student portal: she/her/hers; he/him/his; they/them/theirs; ze/zir/zirs; and xe/xer/xers." This is still an optional thing, from what I see of the post.

Change is always met with resistance. We're hardwired that way. And it takes a very long time to accept. That's not saying it's good or bad, but just how it is. We're still fighting about the Civil War. We're still disagreeing about women's equality. This is no different.

I can appreciate and respect this post and I do agree with it very much. The expansion of these gender pronoun categories has gone completely out of control and I get the frustration, but for most of us on this forum, it will never affect us. I doubt 10% of the population will ever even come into contact with these far reaching gender expressions anyhow on more than a "hello, may I take your order basis" or "may I help you" for some sort of customer service function.

How many of you here actually KNOW a transgender person, have met them, interacted with them on a regular day to day basis, consider them a friend or they're a family member? I doubt 10 of you on this forum have (I'd be very surprised if it were more than that). So really this isn't even going to affect any of us.

But should it continue, we'll need some stupid 3 college credit hour course just to understand them all and good luck getting enrollment for that from the unwilling!

It’s hard to be different?

tell that to the 3 transgender women who have literally been hunted like deer and murdered this year in New Orleans just for being transgender.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...led_new_o.html


Tell that to the two lesbian women in NY who were raped, burned alive and killed for simply being gay and marrying each other.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/new...uple-homicide/

edit wrong link was posted and I said the wrong state. previous link removed due it being another country.

The odder you are the more celebrated you are. When did bullying go from picking on the smart kid to picking on the alphabet kid?

Why are we so dismissive and hostile to this movement? Because we know what it coming next. As we are all in the ‘gun community’ we know they will not stop at pronouns. It is the excising from society of people like us - oddly under the title of diversity and inclusiveness - that is their goal. Hell, it is even ‘for the children’ in both cases.

We have to be quiet about my son’s shooting activities because of general bias and hatred in society, but wear a dress to school and he’d get a medal. My kids school is going to get rid of its dress code because someday it might offend a kids who can’t figure out what side of the closet to pull and outfit from.

Yes, these people deserve not to be taunted and teased. But where does it end? Why at these pronouns? Aren’t there other people that we are discriminating against by not including there words? How can you arbitrarily stop there- and why isn’t he/she an also acceptable place to end?

Unless you're somehow famous, have money or somehow come to the public light...most LGBTQ people never get celebrated. But the rest of your post I do heartily agree with.

You don't know that about homosexuals. And I sure as hell don't believe that transgender people don't have a choice. But, no one knows for sure and there is no scientific study supporting the "born that way" theory that hasn't been refuted in one way or the other as far as I know. On the other hand, we have several centuries worth of the study of nature and reproduction to support the "lifestyle choice" theory.

I don't know why someone would choose to be homosexual. Again...no one knows exactly why. But I do know that nature clearly steers us in the direction of being heterosexual. That's pretty irrefutable. There may be forces or influences in someone's life at some point that left an indelible mark on their brain or psyche that might cause them to believe one way or the other that no one else is aware of...maybe even the person influenced. We just don't know.

Regardless, someone wants to be gay, fine. I'm OK with that. As a matter of fact the best man at my first wedding was gay and was kicked out of the AF because of it. I thought he got a raw deal but those were the rules and consequences at the time. But being gay shouldn't provide you with special treatment. Just like being an outspoken 2A supporter and conservative shouldn't mean I get special treatment. In a perfect world people would be treated the same until they did something to either earn special treatment or earn some type of negative treatment (ie: criminal behavior).

If people who are "different" have the right to be radical about their beliefs and take an "in your face" approach to preaching their beliefs then I have the same right in regards to my beliefs. And radical homosexual rights advocates have been preaching with the "in your face" style for decades. I'll admit it...I'm just a little tired of it.

Bailey, when did you "make the decision" to be straight?

Any "study" can be refuted. Many organizations like the "American College of Pediatrics" which mind you isn't even a legitimate medical group, has refuted a lot of things based on their religious belief systems rather than medical expertise and science. Many doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists and scientists inject their political and religious beliefs into their refudiations, rather than their expert medical experience and knowledge. Medicine and science continue to evolve at an amazing rate. We're learning new things about the human body EVERY SINGLE DAY...and many of those things challenge what we already know and what we believe.

Dr. George Church is on the brink of bringing the Wooly Mammoth back to life. It's 2-4 years away from happening. He's also working on gene replacement therapy to replace the decaying, dying genes in the human body that break down which causes us to age. Injecting humans with replacement genes that are younger, essentially will give the next generation or the one after that the ability to live 250 years. A generation or two after that will be able to live up to 800-900 years!

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/0...versal-of.html

But there is growing scientific evidence that suggests transgender people experience something during gestation that leads to the miswiring of the brain in regards to their gender. But there is still so much that scientists and doctors DO NOT know about what causes this.

http://health.heraldtribune.com/2016...m-in-the-womb/

I strongly disagree with "lifestyle". They live life pretty much just as you do. Eat, work, potty, maintain their homes, go on vacation, go shopping, go have fun, etc. Only thing that is really different is who/how they love, and how they identify their gender to the rest of the world.


And if you think all this is bad...just wait till transgender women start getting womb implants and carrying their own children and giving birth via c-section. You'll really have a conniption fit I suppose.

http://www.ladbible.com/news/interes...abies-20171105


and if gene replacement therapy is possible to reverse human aging...it's only a matter of time before gene/chromosome replacement therapies can fully change a person's genetic sex/gender.


SCIENCE IS AMAZING!