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    Video games can and are used to desensitize people. There is a definite debate on it but look at all the military and Law Enforcement training using simulations. It is meant to be used to help desensitize one for the time they are required to use the force required. Look up Lt Col Dave Grossman and his views on the effects of it. Very knowledgeable man and written a few very good books on the subject.

    Good video of Lt Col Dave Grossman covering the effects of video games:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsEuR7dhj4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    The percentage of people who've grown up with violence in video games and movies and have not commit violence against others like mass murders is an even lower percentage than the number of people who have guns but don't kill people with them. Statistics works both ways.
    Ok what stat was I supposedly referencing? I was suggesting that non of our parents. Grandparents or great grandparents never had access to the tech we have now. I'm not saying they didn't do thier own crap but come on how can we honestly accept the idea that a young developing mind can handle all the constant bombardment that today's technology provides without limitations and guidance. I'm not saying that the sole of the blame is tech but its simply a part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    My theory is it's the same problem with suicides: reporting on it, thus essentially celebrating it, places the idea into a person's head. High schools that have rallies after a single suicide often see copycats afterward. Same thing in military units.

    Malcontent? Disaffected? Angry at the world? Feel like you're a peon and no one pays attention to you? Want revenge? Just shoot a school up! Your name will be known, your legacy will be one of power, and in the space of a few minutes you'll be "someone".
    The suspect, 17-year-old Dimitrios Pagourtzis, is in custody and has been charged with capital murder, officials said. The suspect allegedly wrote in journals that he wanted to carry out the shooting and then commit suicide, but he gave himself up to authorities, according to Abbott.

    At the Santa Fe Police Department, Pagourtzis gave a statement admitting to shooting multiple people inside the school with the intent of killing people, according to an probable cause affidavit.

    Pagourtzis also allegedly stated during the interview that he did not shoot students he liked "so he could have his story told," the affidavit states.
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    I am watching baseball and Mike Johnston for Governor ads come on. He has a plan to stop the violence.

    Ban guns, stop the gun lobby.

    I am curious how these policies would have stopped the Texas kid from stealing his father's guns and using them to murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    I am watching baseball and Mike Johnston for Governor ads come on.
    I saw that one yesterday. I had to leave the room when it came on a few minutes ago. What a DB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazin View Post
    Ok what stat was I supposedly referencing? I was suggesting that non of our parents. Grandparents or great grandparents never had access to the tech we have now. I'm not saying they didn't do thier own crap but come on how can we honestly accept the idea that a young developing mind can handle all the constant bombardment that today's technology provides without limitations and guidance. I'm not saying that the sole of the blame is tech but its simply a part of the problem.
    I should have been more clear so you didn't feel targeted about statistics. I made that comment because it is commonly parroted on here about the statistically low chances of a school shooting, so why punish all gun owners? The same could be said about the number of people who've played violent video games, compared to the number that have committed violent crimes.

    There are lots of things that people can point at to blame, but I'm just reminded of Columbine when people had no idea what to make of what happened and were just grabbing at straws all over the place. They blamed rock music and video games then as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    I am watching baseball and Mike Johnston for Governor ads come on. He has a plan to stop the violence.

    Ban guns, stop the gun lobby, and label political opponents and dissenters as mentally ill.

    I am curious how these policies would have stopped the Texas kid from stealing his father's guns and using them to murder.

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    Perhaps they already had the commercial ready to go and right on time for such an occasion
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    Disagree. Mass shooters are already a "thing." Eliminating press coverage would just make people think, "hmmm, hasn't been a shooting in a while, guess I'm up."
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    I am watching baseball and Mike Johnston for Governor ads come on. He has a plan to stop the violence.

    Ban guns, stop the gun lobby.
    All of the Democrat ads that I've seen around the country mention taking on the NRA. It's their excuse for not having any valid ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    Your reduction wouldn't be noticeable for a little while for sure. But people's "long term event" memory is rather dull - and what I mean by that is not "We forgot all about Columbine, Parkland, 9/11 etc.." but instead, the emotional meaning of each of those events fades into near oblivion until they become a historical note. If I talk about 9/11 right now, is anyone here going to have even 1% of the emotional feeling they had on 9/11/2001 or 9/12/2001? Rarely, you'd have some historical nut-job (like the people who believe they are hitler reincarnated) but you wouldn't have "You know what hasn't been in the press for twenty years? School shooting. Suddenly, I'm motivated!" It's the recent news events/ recent shootings and the national emotional response thereto that is a needle that breaks the camels back and keeps it fresh in the mind.

    Still, that's only a secondary cause (a road to infamy) the primary cause is those who seek infamy. And again, I care about them as much as they have empathy for the human race. That's the problem that really needs solved. Instead of metal detectors at schools, I'd pay extra tax $ for FMRI tests to enter high school.
    I just read this article this morning, which pulls an excerpt from a Malcolm Gladwell book. I think Gladwell has solid reasoning on issues that he researches and his take on mass school shootings did in with what you're trying to say. Check it out.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...t-explanation/
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