Uber shooting on I-25

[ben4372]

10 rounds seems about right. Especially if he went for a cell phone. If he hit the guy twice, he might have a future in California law enforcement. My gut is the driver was probably defending himself.

[Skip]

A lot of the information that’s being reported makes me question the actual reporting itself. We all know how shitty a job these hack reporters do early in an investigation.

Lots of missing info for a front page story. Agree. All too eager to report the charges though.

Either way this goes down it illustrates the failure of Uber's (and all others') gun-free zone bullshit. Either the driver had a legitimate use of force which shows how wrong gun-free policies are (security vacuum). Or the driver is a murderer which shows he didn't really care about the gun-free policy. No matter the result, the policy failed and the folks behind it have zero personal accountability--I'm 100% sure Uber will catch a civil case over this.

I've used Uber for about four years now in multiple cities, mostly because I'm Irish, and never had a problem. I have *felt* safer in most Ubers than I did in taxis in the 90s, and that goes for all cities I've been to. I'm still surprised I survived a few of the Super Shuttle rides from Pendleton to San Diego!!!

A couple of times I was pooled with questionable Uber riders but nothing over the top. The drivers tend to get booted if their ratings fall below a certain threshold (I've read it's 4.7/5). This doesn't mean the system is foolproof by any means.

I think Uber has opened up for hire to free market principals which I support. Drivers get to pick their hours/trips. Riders get to pick their fares and have another option that introduces competition.

[68Charger]

I'll just leave this here...
http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/rideshare-incidents

Nothing in life is 100% safe... taking an Uber could be less dangerous than other choices in certain situations...
You'd likely be safer to avoid those situations, but being safe may not be one's primary life goal... safe = boring to a lot of people.

[Irving]

I browsed the list of deaths, and it is including times someone murdered a person, and also happened to be an Uber driver, but not at the same time.

[68Charger]

I browsed the list of deaths, and it is including times someone murdered a person, and also happened to be an Uber driver, but not at the same time.

Yes, I noticed that... does it make it ok if they only murder people on their own time?

Wouldn't creep you out at all if you found out your Uber driver was a murderer?

[Irving]

Sure, but it's not different than any other profession as far as being a murderer goes. I don't want a murderer plumber or murderer mailman either.

[sroz]

10 rounds is the typical police response whenever they pull out a gun and use it, and any training I have ever been involved in you are told to shoot until you know the threat has been eliminated so I'm not judging on 10 rounds.

Whether it's Uber or a cab, picking up a ride at 3:00 am has got to have an elevated level of risk for the driver involved.

As for being charged, he has been charged under "investigation of 1st degree murder", he has not been arrested for 1st degree murder, big difference. This is a way for the police to hold him until their initial investigation is able to deduce what the events were and whether or not the investigation continues. I'm guessing he was attacked by a drunk/crazy rider, hit the brakes, jumped out when he could as he was firing and the car rolling into the wall. The other driver was probably behind him or came upon the scene just as it ended.

Sounds like the most plausible scenario to me based on the little information provided to this point.

[Duman]

"Casings outside *could* be due to open windows, and the fact it was a .40 Short and Weak, which can have fairly decent ejection. "

Thank god it wasn't a 9mm.... passenger would still be alive.....

[spqrzilla]

The media make a big deal of this because tarring Uber is a large Democrat / Union goal. The idea of internet-enabled gig economy is a nightmare of unions.

And yes, I know that Uber itself is a company with a toxic management culture.

[.455_Hunter]

Still being held under "investigation" of a murder charge- no charges yet.