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[Irving]

What kind of data does the airbag module have?

[MrPrena]

if he has a huracan and an r8 I don?t feel like this would be a thread topic but if you or him have those.... Are you adopting? I am house trained and can cook and weld

[Although both are way beyond the mean of my car budget] I tell him R8 poor man's Huracan, and I call Huracan glorified R8 v10. *Loop*

[MarkCO]

What kind of data does the airbag module have?

Vehicle speed, Brake light switch (On/Off?), Engine speed, Throttle position, number of key cycles, ∆V, Seat belt buckle, Near deployment events, Airbag deployments, Seat belt pre-tensioner deployments. In some vehicles, there is more. I have seen direction, light condition, load, engine temperature. Near deployment events are when the airbag has passed a certain threshold but did not elevate past a trigger threshold. These are overwritable, meaning 1 to 5 can be stored, but they go away writing over the oldest if the limit is met. Deployment events are not overwritable which is why the module needs to be changed if you have a deployment event. The event is from 5 to 8 seconds of data. The data is collected and stored in a matrix format and the manufacturers, by law, have to allow 3rd parties to access their modules as well as decode. So with most of the data, I get a graphical representation. Brake light switch, seat belts is just a yes or no.

[Irving]

Interesting, is that essentially the "little black box" then?

[MarkCO]

Interesting, is that essentially the "little black box" then?

That is what it is often called. Usually under the passenger seat about an inch thick and 4 to 5 inches square.

[Jer]

We recently added a a couple of new cars that our insurance agent said couldn't be covered by the provider we were with for 15 years. This caused us to start shopping and we're SO glad we did. One of the local agents we got quotes from suggested we install one of those devices which could "save us up to 30%" according to her. We kept shopping and found another company that was even lower w/o the need to spy on us.

Moral: keep shopping. A better deal is out there.

[BladesNBarrels]

When I bought my 2016 Yukon, it came with full coverage OnStar for 3 or 6 months.
I started getting monthly emails that told me how many times I applied the brake hard, when I accelerated fast, etc.
I just found that intrusive. I was accelerating fast to get on the freeways, applying the brakes hard when a distracted driver suddenly realized they were missing a light or a turn.
Plus, OnStar was going to charge me more than $40 a month to continue the monitoring.
No thanks.

[Jer]

When I bought my 2016 Yukon, it came with full coverage OnStar for 3 or 6 months.
I started getting monthly emails that told me how many times I applied the brake hard, when I accelerated fast, etc.
I just found that intrusive. I was accelerating fast to get on the freeways, applying the brakes hard when a distracted driver suddenly realized they were missing a light or a turn.
Plus, OnStar was going to charge me more than $40 a month to continue the monitoring.
No thanks.

But however will you know when you've accelerated aggressively or braked savagely w/o big bro sliding in your DMs for the scant service fee of only $40/mo? ROFL

[kidicarus13]

When I bought my 2016 Yukon, it came with full coverage OnStar for 3 or 6 months.
I started getting monthly emails that told me how many times I applied the brake hard, when I accelerated fast, etc.
I just found that intrusive. I was accelerating fast to get on the freeways, applying the brakes hard when a distracted driver suddenly realized they were missing a light or a turn.
Plus, OnStar was going to charge me more than $40 a month to continue the monitoring.
No thanks.

Now they just collect the same data on your driving habits as before and sell it to requesting companies, or agencies that provide a court order.

[Jer]

I recently got some of the tattle tale devices in the mail. They will be going back. No thanks. I have excellent credit and an excellent driving record. I dont need anyone watching me. (other than the black helicopter that already do)

This one gets me too... what the hell does one's credit have to do with how good of a driver they are. Such a bogus data point for car insurance.