So what, specifically, do our new overlords have planned for us?

[boxy]

For all those that think that any of the Family Leave, single payer, etc are good ideas... (maybe a DEM is reading this).

Here is a direct effect. I have 2 to 3 engineering positions I was going to fill this year. Not any more.

I have to expand my manufacturing operations. My manufacturing orders went up 10X for Q2 2019. I will hire a few extra people but not many.

Basically, DEMS have added to much uncertainty with respect to employees so until the dust settles, I try not to hire. And I have interviews with two engineers this morning. I have not decided if I will fill the open positions.

So, the direct result is less hiring.

Can you elaborate a little more? Do these things raise your employee costs enough that the revenue generated by a 10x increase in orders does not offset 2-3 engineering positions?

Just trying to understand.

[DDT951]

Can you elaborate a little more? Do these things raise your employee costs enough that the revenue generated by a 10x increase in orders does not offset 2-3 engineering positions?

Just trying to understand.

Enough uncertainty that I won't hire as many as I would have.

Also questioning where to manufacture. Was going to be CO. Arrived in in the EU this morning and this week discussing Czech production site.

Having possible radical changes that drive up costs possible does not make businesses want to hire.

One hope is participating in the "industry partnership" workshops over the family leave bill. We are hoping to try and help steer them away or not do too much damage. I dont have a lot of hope of working with DEMS.

[Cujo0920]

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

[Rucker61]

So when do we start seeing new bills on these state Democratic platform points?

Firearms and Gun Safety
We agree with individual ownership of firearms for hunting and personal safety, but also believe that firearms should be
regulated as follows:
1. Ban assault weapons, bump stocks, and high capacity magazines.
2. Enact universal background checks federally.
3. Enact restrictions: Must be 21 and must demonstrate competency with firearms to purchase a firearm.
4. Prohibit the possession and purchase of firearms by people with violent criminal offenses or on terrorist watch list.
5. Except for security personnel, ban firearms on K-12 schools, college campuses and allow cultural institutions to ban firearms on their premises.
6. Enact Extreme Risk Protection Order law, which would allow families and law enforcement to seek a court order to temporarily disarm a person who is dangerous to themselves or others.
7. Enact criminal penalties when adults fail to properly store firearms and minors gain access and harm themselves or others.
8. Restrict firearms use in National Forest to designated areas, except during hunting season.
9. Allow the CDC and other government agencies to conduct gun violence research, and properly fund.

[roberth]

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

Aleksandr was right.

Unfortunately 98% of the people in this country who could take up arms against their oppressor won't, they're too comfortable and complacent, me included.

Nobody wants to start anything because there aren't enough people willing to join in.

As a result we'll get the government we deserve.

[MED]

So when do we start seeing new bills on these state Democratic platform points?

Firearms and Gun Safety
We agree with individual ownership of firearms for hunting and personal safety, but also believe that firearms should be
regulated as follows:
1. Ban assault weapons, bump stocks, and high capacity magazines.
2. Enact universal background checks federally.
3. Enact restrictions: Must be 21 and must demonstrate competency with firearms to purchase a firearm.
4. Prohibit the possession and purchase of firearms by people with violent criminal offenses or on terrorist watch list.
5. Except for security personnel, ban firearms on K-12 schools, college campuses and allow cultural institutions to ban firearms on their premises.
6. Enact Extreme Risk Protection Order law, which would allow families and law enforcement to seek a court order to temporarily disarm a person who is dangerous to themselves or others.
7. Enact criminal penalties when adults fail to properly store firearms and minors gain access and harm themselves or others.
8. Restrict firearms use in National Forest to designated areas, except during hunting season.
9. Allow the CDC and other government agencies to conduct gun violence research, and properly fund.

I posted this in the Polis thread too; we need to organize as soon as possible, and be ready to fight with the only thing those people understand...throwing them out of office.

We only need to flip two senators to block gun control at the legislature. We need to go after these three before it is passed with the ultimatum that they will be recalled; maybe just show up at the hearings with the petitions in hand and organize rather than listen to their BS because they won't listen to us anyway.

Leroy Garcia, District 3 (this was Giron's seat so he knows a recall is possible)
Pete Lee, District 11 (this was Morse's seat so he also knows a recall is possible)
Tammy Story, District 16 (this is Neville's seat that he lost, and a lot of mountain people will trash her on the gun issue)

Jessie Danielson (D20) and Brittany Patterson (D22) are possibilities too.
Faith Winter (D24) is another one too; she flipped the seat from Beth Martinez Humenik

[Pancho Villa]

Does anyone have any actual contacts with people who are spooling up legislation or is this all speculation?

[DDT951]

Does anyone have any actual contacts with people who are spooling up legislation or is this all speculation?

Good place to start.

https://leg.colorado.gov/bill-search...levance%20DESC

[O2HeN2]

Expect them to go full Oregon, where a bill has been introduced limiting ammunition purchases to 20 rounds a month (among other things), then out of the goodness of their hearts, offer to "compromise".

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/sto...on/2527929002/

O2

[O2HeN2]

...I should add. We won't see any legislation until the next school or other high profile shooting. Then, like New York's SAFE act, legislation will be proposed, passed and signed into law in less than 48 hours.

The dems know how to get stuff passed with a minimum of bother from the serfs.

We won't know what hit us.

O2