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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Japan is no longer "the enemy" and are in fact a very strong ally.

    Do you have issue with Great Britain? Damn those redcoats!
    Quote Originally Posted by MB888 View Post
    Where is the apology?

    Come on, ya'll know logic and rational thinking aren't allowed on here! Ruining all the fun.


    I have issues with Great Britian, primarily their music... geesh.

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    I clicked the link and don't see the apology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB888 View Post
    Where is the apology?
    Come on, it's Obama. We all know he's apologized! I've heard that they're going to seize all our guns, sell them to Iran, and use the money to develop time traveling technology so that he can go back to 1941 and surrender to Japan.

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    He's only sending a delegation,,with no apologies.



    No Apologies for Hiroshima and Nagasaki
    Aug 5, 2005

    IRVINE, CA--On August 6, 1945, American airmen detonated a nuclear bomb over Hiroshima, Japan, and three days later dropped a second nuclear bomb on Nagasaki. The bombs are estimated to have killed almost 300,000, most of them civilians.

    Despite paroxysms of America-bashing by our professional intellectuals on the sixtieth anniversary of the bombings, America should be proud to have dropped the Bomb.

    America was not the aggressor in World War II, but the victim of a brutal attack. Any deaths that occurred in America's self-defense, therefore, are to be blamed on the aggressors who made them necessary. It is the solemn responsibility of the U.S. government to protect American citizens, ruthlessly destroying those who threaten us. If civilians die in the process, as they did in Japan, it merely underscores the enormity of the stakes when a populace embraces (or submits to) a murderous, dictatorial regime.

    Military historians may debate how much the Bomb shortened the war and how many American lives were saved. But the fact is American lives were saved--and this is the reason America should be proud of its grave decision sixty years ago.

    It is worth remembering too that in the reconstruction of Japan there were no insurgents, no Japanese roadside bombs killing our soldiers. One reason is that the United States had shown, in the clearest possible terms, our willingness to wage total war against our enemies. Our military strategists in Iraq could learn from those who, sixty years ago, decided to spare no means in bringing the Japanese nation to its knees.

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    I don't know if anyone else can see the whole article; I can't, but from what I can ascertain from googling around this is the first time that the US has sent an envoy to mark the anniversary of the Hiroshima bomb. A survivor of Nagasaki has said that the US should apologize, and the son of Paul Tibbets has said that sending an envoy is an 'unspoken apology.'

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    I saw the part about the dignitary, but I don't know that honoring the dead is exactly the same as an apology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    Come on, ya'll know logic and rational thinking aren't allowed on here! Ruining all the fun.


    I have issues with Great Britian, primarily their music... geesh.
    Their music isn't half as bad as the food!

    Well that was an appropriate song on my shuffle...

    The big shots -- try to hold it back
    Fools try to wish it away
    The hopeful depend on a world without end
    Whatever the hopeless may say

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    I like Lily Allen.
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    The Japanese surrender wasn't fully unconditional. They were allowed to keep their emperor. I believe MacArthur was involved in this decision. Seeing as the alternative was a full invasion and they had their crazies giving out spears to everybody it was probably a good idea. They were estimating a million US casualties in an invasion and Japanese would have been pretty much wiped out.

    I'm a little prejudiced here since my Dad was in MacArthur's army. He would have been in that invasion.

    One unfortunate part of this was that the Japanese never really faced up to what they had done and younger Japanese don't know why other Asians hate them since they weren't taught that history. they are still denying Nanking. The Germans know their history since that was a real surrender.

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    The only thing I think we should be sorry for is not doing it earlier and they should be happy that we didn't drop anymore a-bombs on them.
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