SCOTUS just gave half of Oklahoma back to the Indians?

[MrPrena]

I thought Lakota was near Ohio area. After google search , I was wrong.

[Great-Kazoo]

I recently had some work on the SD res. I handled myself in the same somewhat aloof manner that I always do. In retrospect, it was cringe worthy. When I was done, I couldn't get off the res fast enough, even though absolutely nothing went wrong.

Having worked on the rez a few years. With you seeing first hand how 4th world some of it is. I'm always amazed how the urban victims complain how tough they have it. I say stick some on a rez in SD, in the mandersen, or kyle area, for a week.

[Zundfolge]

Basically, if you?re not a member of a tribe and don?t commit a crime against a member of a tribe, this has zero effect on you.

Unless you are not a member of a tribe and a member of a tribe commits a crime against you. Then there's a chance that "tribal justice" will be aligned with "social justice" and the whole "only white people are bad" notion gets implemented and the tribal criminal will walk.

[Honey Badger282.8]

Unless you are not a member of a tribe and a member of a tribe commits a crime against you. Then there's a chance that "tribal justice" will be aligned with "social justice" and the whole "only white people are bad" notion gets implemented and the tribal criminal will walk.

In that scenario it would be the feds who would investigate and prosecute your assailant.

[MrPrena]

Yes some of them are racist, and have many hate. Okay I get it.

I had an experienced it before and it really made me uncomfortsble.

Short story:
Around 2009, we had a family friend who has a shop in Sioux falls and Cheyenne WY.
He wanted to expand their business to Grand Island NE, and he brought his employees from Sioux falls.
I decide to help him set up a business as an experience (compensated as well on a discounted friend rate).

Those 2 guys from sioux falls were very fun to work with iluntil they were talking about race and etc. At first hour, I thought they were kidding, but seems like they make joke out of it from dislikeness of a race.

Comment that really got me uncomfortable and I am not even white.

"White men cant be trusted. They took our land and got us drunk."
While holding a box cutter.. "hahahaha Robber become a ROBEE!!"

Then he told me that government tries to put them into the reserves etc.

I told my family friend about this because one of potential pissed off customer can really make him miserable.
He said think of them as a funny beavis and butthead.

I thought I was talking to native skinheads.

[CS1983]

Well, I mean, were they wrong?

[Zundfolge]

Well, I mean, were they wrong?

The problem is with the framing. We're told "The White Man ripped off the sweet, innocent, honest and decent red man (who was just trying to commune with Gaia in peace and beauty)".

Whites violated agreements they made with Natives ... Natives violated agreements they made with Whites ... Natives violated agreements they made with other Natives ... Whites violated agreements they made with other Whites ... nobody's hands were clean. But the only dirty hands you're allowed to criticize today are the white ones. Which is annoying enough in the context of personal interactions, but its downright dangerous when public policy is determined through this lens.

[Irving]

Unless you are not a member of a tribe and a member of a tribe commits a crime against you. Then there's a chance that "tribal justice" will be aligned with "social justice" and the whole "only white people are bad" notion gets implemented and the tribal criminal will walk.

That chance exists no matter where, or who you are. Total non-issue.

[CS1983]

I'd probably violate agreements I was forced to make or were made by a handful of unrepresentative "representatives", too.

Hard to maintain good faith when at every turn you find another chunk of land taken, mistreatment at the hands of the Army, and a foreign culture shoved down your throat.

[MrPrena]

Well, I mean, were they wrong?

They are not wrong.
First 15 minutes yes. After 2nd hours straight to entire day, it becomes freaky.

I totally understand why they rant.
I see that with Armenians talking same about Turkish.
I see same thing what Bosnian talking about 2-3 other former yugoslavian countries.
I see Hawaiians or former US navy personals talk same about Japanses war loving old impearist/nationalists the same.

Totally understandable. Just dont do too much/long. Majority of population do not have 2hr + attention span.