Another reason to avoid Denver Saturday

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

The deceased was armed and menacing makes justifiable homicide. Case dismissed.

If a guy with a gun hits you in the face, then maces you, what do you expect is next? Has nothing to do with politics.
The problem I see is that big corporations are possibly liable here. Big corporations have big law firms. Large sums of money are involved. They have a vested interest in the defendant being found not guilty. Reduces civil liability.

"The law is based on experience, not logic."

Thank you for proving that you know nothing about the facts of the case, the law, or self defense. You could have peddled your BS if there weren't pictures.

"A guy with a gun hits you in the face"- a gun you can't see, a hit that only comes after you assault him.

"Then maces you" - only after you pull a gun on him. That is beyond contestation.

The facts, the law, pound the table.

You're hands hurting yet?

I REALLY hope you don't carry a gun, for the sake of yourself and society. With your analysis and legal understanding, you are a danger.

[brutal]

Thank you for proving that you know nothing about the facts of the case, the law, or self defense. You could have peddled your BS if there weren't pictures.

"A guy with a gun hits you in the face"- a gun you can't see, a hit that only comes after you assault him.

"Then maces you" - only after you pull a gun on him. That is beyond contestation.

The facts, the law, pound the table.

You're hands hurting yet?

I REALLY hope you don't carry a gun, for the sake of yourself and society. With your analysis and legal understanding, you are a danger.

My exact thoughts. Thanks for taking on the burden.

I suppose if he had a sex toy in his pocket, someone might also think they were in imminent danger of being raped...

[BushMasterBoy]

I saw some pics that said the deceased had a gun. It was on social media. They had circled the area on the deceased that they said the gun was at. The social media posts were from witness's at the scene
Right now my internet is screwed up. The press is stating there were two guns found at the scene. I can't reference the sources due to this internet problem.
If the deceased was armed, it will make a difference at trial.

So where did the second gun come from? Is this going to be a surprise discovery at the trial?

You guys were there at the scene, so you know it all?

[roberth]

Thank you for proving that you know nothing about the facts of the case, the law, or self defense. You could have peddled your BS if there weren't pictures.

"A guy with a gun hits you in the face"- a gun you can't see, a hit that only comes after you assault him.

"Then maces you" - only after you pull a gun on him. That is beyond contestation.

The facts, the law, pound the table.

You're hands hurting yet?

I REALLY hope you don't carry a gun, for the sake of yourself and society. With your analysis and legal understanding, you are a danger.

Excellent, like brutal, I thank you for your response.

[Gunner]

If a guy with a gun hits you in the face, then maces you, what do you expect is next? Has nothing to do with politics.
The problem I see is that big corporations are possibly liable here. Big corporations have big law firms. Large sums of money are involved. They have a vested interest in the defendant being found not guilty. Reduces civil liability.

"The law is based on experience, not logic."

How do you know Lee had a gun? How would Matt have known this? A gun was never introduced into the fight until Matt drew one from his Waistband at which time Lee used his mace and Matt shot. Now if Matt had Ben open carrying and Lee saw this then Matt might have a defense of well if he Maced me then then he could take my gun etc.... but that wasn?t the case so it holds no water in this discussion


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[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I saw some pics that said the deceased had a gun. It was on social media. They had circled the area on the deceased that they said the gun was at. The social media posts were from witness's at the scene
Right now my internet is screwed up. The press is stating there were two guns found at the scene. I can't reference the sources due to this internet problem.
If the deceased was armed, it will make a difference at trial.

So where did the second gun come from? Is this going to be a surprise discovery at the trial?

You guys were there at the scene, so you know it all?

Dude, there is a picture of Lee standing there flat footed, hands at his side as the guy draws a handgun? Why don't you just claim that Bigfoot shot Lee and the second gun was from the Loch Ness Monster??? Why not, you have as much evidence for that as your other gas lighting story.

[.455_Hunter]

New information on who employed the shooter and who is representing the deceased. I will leave it up to you folks to assess the statements, particularly from the security company owner.

https://kdvr.com/news/local/lawyer-f...-self-defense/

On Thursday night, Matt Isborn, the owner of Isborn Security Services, confirmed his company is the subcontractor that hired Dolloff. He said Dolloff has worked for his company on multiple projects since August 2019.

In a statement, Isborn said his company is licensed to provide armed security services in the City and County of Denver.

"During that time, I agonized over the ridiculous accusations and the lies that were being spread about Matthew Dolloff's affiliations, and his character. The mainstream and local media outlets have been nothing short of shameless in spreading this misinformation, and I refuse to remain silent any longer. I have spent the last three days reading the statements of those involved, of those who witnessed the incident, and viewing the comprehensive photographic documentation," Isborn said. He referenced videos released by 9NEWS on Wednesday.

Isborn said that after reviewing all the available information, he is "now convinced that Matthew Dolloff's actions were strictly defensive in nature, and his quick reaction to the situation may have saved the life of the channel 9 News Producer."

[roberth]

Isborn must have watched a different video than the Denver DA.

Maybe it was this video:

[hollohas]

I think Isborn won't be a company much longer if they think that was appropriate defensive action. Who would want that sort of liability having a security contractor that truly believes their employees should kill people who bitch slap them?

[hollohas]

Not impressed with Matt Isborn's resume. NRA Certified Firearms Instructor, CCW instructor and Colorado Licensed P.I.

Doesn't exactly scream "expert executive protection provider"...

His linkedIn and Facebook appear to have been deleted.