Big Snow, maybe

[hollohas]

The ones that get me are those people who say "me and my kids were stuck for 7 hours".

A) Are you out for a family drive?

B) If you do have to take the family out, bring winter boots/jackets/gloves/etc. So you can walk to shelter instead of sitting 7 hours waiting for a rescue. Most of these people got stuck in town somewhere. Short walk to get somewhere that's not your stuck car.

I like driving around in snow storms as much as the next guy. I think it's fun. But act like an adult and plan accordingly if that's what you're going to do. Keep good tires on your car. If you're too cheep/poor for snow tires, keep chains in your car. Bring boots. Bring a tow strap. Bring a damn shovel. This storm wasn't a surprise, how hard is it to just load some useful shit into your car if you must go out?

[Great-Kazoo]

The ones that get me are those people who say "me and my kids were stuck for 7 hours".

A) Are you out for a family drive?

B) If you do have to take the family out, bring winter boots/jackets/gloves/etc. So you can walk to shelter instead of sitting 7 hours waiting for a rescue. Most of these people got stuck in town somewhere. Short walk to get somewhere that's not your stuck car.

I like driving around in snow storms as much as the next guy. I think it's fun. But act like an adult and plan accordingly if that's what you're going to do. Keep good tires on your car. If you're too cheep/poor for snow tires, keep chains in your car. Bring boots. Bring a tow strap. Bring a damn shovel. This storm wasn't a surprise, how hard is it to just load some useful shit into your car if you must go out?

For today's entitlement society, Real hard.

CO has always been, dress for summer, be prepared for winter.

[.455_Hunter]

For today's entitlement society, Real hard.

Isn't their an app for my smartphone that keeps me from getting stuck, or puts snow tires on my car?

[Great-Kazoo]

Isn't their an app for my smartphone that keeps me from getting stuck, or puts snow tires on my car?

there is.

But you must be under 40, and admit your privilege got you this far.


Us seniors are grandfathered, of course

[Hummer]

Isn't their an app for my smartphone that keeps me from getting stuck, or puts snow tires on my car?

I'd buy that app, especially if it would put chains on after my getting the truck stuck.

My Toy plow wears studded snow tires year round and it's usually sufficient to plow deep snow without needing chains. But more times than I care to remember I've high centered the plow frame and front differential by pushing too far into a heavy wet snow berm. Then, i have to chain the rear tires and shovel the packed snow under the frame in order to back out. I've mostly learned to avoid that now and if necessary I'll chain up all four to push the deep wet spring snow.

I live off a state highway and the state plows bury our driveway entry. Today I spent two hours chewing off swipes of packed snow in front of the mailboxes, about 12 ft wide, six feet high and ~30 ft long so the mail courier could access the boxes. I sweep all this 100+ yards down the highway shoulder so there's room for the next snowstorm. I expect the state will send a grader through soon because the plows have no room left to push snow off the road.

Drove to Ferncliff to gas up the plow and encountered an older fellow shoveling a tunnel from his house and driveway to the road. I was able to push a few tons of snow out of the way so he could get out. Us senior citizens have to look out for each other.

[Aloha_Shooter]

The ones that get me are those people who say "me and my kids were stuck for 7 hours".

A) Are you out for a family drive?

B) If you do have to take the family out, bring winter boots/jackets/gloves/etc. So you can walk to shelter instead of sitting 7 hours waiting for a rescue. Most of these people got stuck in town somewhere. Short walk to get somewhere that's not your stuck car.

I like driving around in snow storms as much as the next guy. I think it's fun. But act like an adult and plan accordingly if that's what you're going to do. Keep good tires on your car. If you're too cheep/poor for snow tires, keep chains in your car. Bring boots. Bring a tow strap. Bring a damn shovel. This storm wasn't a surprise, how hard is it to just load some useful shit into your car if you must go out?

Agreed. When I first moved to the state in 1988, we were instructed to think about being stranded in the vehicle in the winter:
- Think about whether you need to go out at all
- Always keep at least half a tank of gas in the vehicle
- Keep winter clothes/footgear/gloves/cap, water, food, and heat source in the car (it's amazing what a little candle will do inside an enclosed volume
- Always crack the window to let out fumes and let in fresh air when using the candle

Contemporary society has become one that just doesn't think. They let Google and Wikipedia do all their thinking for them. We need more of these storms and brown-outs to keep our society resilient (or more accurately, restore some resilience and robustness to a once proud and self-reliant society and culture).

[hollohas]

We need more of these storms and brown-outs to keep our society resilient (or more accurately, restore some resilience and robustness to a once proud and self-reliant society and culture).

You're right. I think this is what's it comes down to. We live in truly a great country, but an EASY one...if you want it to be. Society as a whole has gone soft as a result.

Want to go to college? Used to be hard, financially and academically. But now literally anyone can get a loan. And while you're there you can take classes that are worthless that take zero effort to pass. College is a for profit business that wants as many customers as they can muster. Come one, come all.

Want to live your life not working at all? No problem. You can have the comforts you want including cell phone and internet.

Don't want to cook, clean, maintain anything, shop, do your own laundry, mow your lawn, walk your own dog, etc etc etc? No problem, there's a service for that.

We are soft and have very few self reliant citizens anymore. Why should they be? There's an app for that...