Officer shooting in Arvada

[Lurch]

From a very reliable source Hurley shot the perp and was indeed shot by the police.

[3beansalad]

From a very reliable source Hurley shot the perp and was indeed shot by the police.

Damn shame, but unfortunately understandable.

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[Bailey Guns]

This guy did what he thought was right. From the stories being circulated by people who say they were his friends, he knew the risks. He still decided to do what he did. Everyone knows that if you get in a shootout, you may get shot. That's just a fact we all live with. LEOs aren't the only folks allowed to take that risk. It's not exclusive to them. I will never criticize ANYONE who steps up and stops a bad guy, badge or not.

Cops may say they don't want citizens to help, but that opinion changes immediately when they need help. There isn't always uniformed backup nearby. Every LEO I know finds comfort in knowing there are still good people out there that have their backs.

This is what it is now. At least right now it sounds like the citizen stopped the bad guy. (There aren't any reports of shots being fired after he engaged). That's a good thing no matter what he "should have done". Good for him.

I'm not arguing that. But now his family is left with dealing with the consequences of his choices. It's an unfortunate reality. And the officer(s) that fired the shots that killed him are left with dealing with what they've done. His decisions impacted a lot more people than just him. Unintended consequences... I'm mostly bringing these things up as food for thought for those who haven't thought these kinds of things through completely.

[Bailey Guns]

This is an odd story thus far. I understand the need to finish an investigation and collect facts before releasing information but it is sometimes frustrating.

I'm curious... Is it possible Hurley was mistakenly shot by Beesly before he passed? Again...not speculating, just thinking out loud.

[hollohas]

Sure, every decision has consequences. For example, an alternate possible consequence if Hurley decided not to engage the bad guy is the bad guy may have killed other bystanders or responding police. His decision would have impacted a lot more people than him in that case too, yeah?

And Hurley (a guy who has proved he's not the passive sort) would have probably suffered life long thoughts that he should have done something. He obviously didn't want to live his life thinking woulda/shoulda/coulda. He stood up and took action. God bless him for that.

I'm glad there are still citizens out there willing to stand up and take action. I'd hate to live in a world where everyone stands aside passivly watching others get hurt, hiding or holding their phone up for video, while waiting for the proper authorities to deal with a dangerous threat. (Although seems like we're getting closer to that each day)

Life is nothing but risks. It's not just LEO who are willing to risk their lives to help.

If indeed he was killed by responding LE, that sucks. I think most folks with CCW understand that. This isn't the first time that's happened. It won't be the last. Sucks if an officer has to live with killing an innocent man, but that's also a risk LEOs have in their line of work.

In so many alternate scenarios there would be people "that have to live with" whatever choice was made. Avoiding that outcome isn't an option.

[eddiememphis]

What is the timeline and the events? Has anything been said about that?

When did asshole show up with his gun? What was he doing before the police were called? When did the cop get there? Were there more police? When did surplus guy jump in?

It sounds like the bad guy shot at the cop and surplus ran into it. Is that correct?

[Lurch]

From my source officer Beesley walked around a corner and was shot. Hurley heard gun fire and saw perp which he engaged. Source made comment that perp was really dead. Other officers showed as there is a station right there and unfortunately shot Hurley.

[00tec]

From my source officer Beesley walked around a corner and was shot. Hurley heard gun fire and saw perp which he engaged. Source made comment that perp was really dead. Other officers showed as there is a station right there and unfortunately shot Hurley.

KDVR is saying the same

[FoxtArt]

For anyone who ever complains when an active shooter is successfully apprehended by police unharmed.... "why didn't they just save us the cost of a trial"...

This is Exhibit A. Even if there is a report of an active shooter we don't want a world where LEO shoots anyone holding a weapon upon arrival.

I hope Hurley gets the same honors that the fallen LEO does, and his family receives the same level of community support.

[Hummer]

Well. I hope this wasn't OUR Hurley! Better off dessicating in the Tucson heat than in the Jefferson County morgue. Maybe.