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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Ukraine says they'll rebuild it and make Russia pay for it. We'll see.

    It has been in and out of DIA to pick up rockets for Lockheed Martin.
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    Yeah, like Trump made Mexico pay for the border wall.


    OT FWIW, tomorrow evening before the State of the Union address our local Republican caucus will be held.

    Awesome plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hummer View Post
    Yeah, like Trump made Mexico pay for the border wall.


    Awesome plane.
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Putin is losing it. People around him are realizing it, he's paranoid, unpredictable, isolated and powerful.

    Be a good time for a Coup. They say dictators and tyrants thru history end up this way after too many years of power. Delusional at the end.

    I certainly feel for the folks in Ukraine, things could get ugly. Pray for Peace!

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    Sounds like a bunch of the Russian troops had no idea what was up and they got a rude awakening when they entered Ukraine. Some accounts (from captured Russians) say they may have been told they were on a peacekeeping mission. That's not the way to get your army ready for a fight. Their hearts aren't in it. It's not like this was a secret mission, why not tell them the truth and get them ready for battle? Tell them their country's safety is at risk? That their very existence as a nation is at stake? Give them a reason to fight?

    Instead Russia told their army they were going on a peacekeeping mission and they went in blind. Major strategic failure there.

    This entire event shows how difficult it is to invade a foreign nation. Especially without "softening" it up first. I've seen some videos of Russian foot patrols getting ambushed in residential neighborhoods. It's slow moving for them.

    Even Russian citizens are protesting this. Putin has made a major error.

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    These guys are not draftees (conscripts). They are professionals. They are literally the cream of the crop of the Russian military. They have mobile launchers. Putin owns them. I would not underestimate them. Link below provides interesting information:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Rocket_Forces
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    Was just reading about a 40-mile long Russian convoy sitting on a road just outside of Kyiv. Too bad Ukraine doesn't have a few A-10s...and a shitload of 30mm ammo. They could make the "Highway of Death" look like Hollywood Blvd.
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    Our politicians talk a lot but in the end no one is helping Ukraine but Ukrainians!!! A lot of hot air being pushed around by political windbags will do very little. Please Help the fight against Putin!!! If we don't help, our Governments will never Act Decisively!!!
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    It kinda seems like this whole shit show is only one mistake away from going Full Retard.

    (no offense to friends, family of... or actual retarded people)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Was just reading about a 40-mile long Russian convoy sitting on a road just outside of Kyiv. Too bad Ukraine doesn't have a few A-10s...and a shitload of 30mm ammo. They could make the "Highway of Death" look like Hollywood Blvd.
    I've been thinking the same thing.
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    Usually the tactic is to surround the city and cut it off from supplies. Starve it. I fear the Rus leader will nuke it. Since NATO is not going in there with their troops, what does he have to lose? The capital is not what he is after, as others have pointed out, it is the resources he wants. He can claim he saved Europe from the fascists, Nazis, and other imaginary evils.
    I am not sure how to deescalate this situation using conventional military strategy and tactics. Maybe bribe his regime to oust him? Average Rus salary is $26,500 per annum. Draftees get paid $30 month. $3000 a month is a great wage in Rus.
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