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    What was the total cost for everything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeeze View Post
    Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise...my Form 1 should be approved any day now. Here are some photos and parts list of what I'm using for anyone who may be interested,

    1. SD Tactical 5.8" Titanium D-Cell tube (1.355 ID) - https://sdtacticalarms.com/product/barrel-shroud/

    2. SD Tactical end cap (D-Cell) - https://sdtacticalarms.com/product/titanium-mounts/

    3. Rearden MFG Atlas adapter to mount on "Plan B" muzzle device (thread pitch: 1.4375-20) - https://www.reardenmfg.com/product/a...hread-adapter/

    4. 2" titanium spacer for blast chamber - https://saucyjoestech.com/products/titanium-tubing

    5. 50 degree stainless "super duper" cups from Pure Performance Armory. These are the shorty skirt ones - https://pureperformancearmory.com/pr...-shorty-skirt/

    Form 1 will be for a 5.56/223. Cones will be center punched at .273 and single "clipped". Clips will be aligned when placed into the tube. I'll add video once it's approved/done.

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    You should be using a SS cup for the blast chamber. Follow with the other one, then finish with the Ti cups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    You should be using a SS cup for the blast chamber. Follow with the other one, then finish with the Ti cups.
    I used all SS cones, simply for the cost factor and they didn't have any of the .50 skirted cones in Ti. Didn't feel like cutting down Ti cones. All in all, the can doesn't weigh that much. I'll get it weighed when I get home tonight just to see. It worked perfectly, didn't even have to re-zero the rifle with it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tactical_2012 View Post
    What was the total cost for everything?
    $650 for everything - including tax stamp.
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    Did you guys see this? ATF is denying Form 1 silencers builds, saying ".....they already have the parts to make a silencer, so they already have one illegally?!?"

    The whole INTENT thing again.


    They are off the rails now................... well they always have been off the rails, but this pattern with them is getting old.



    ATF Goes After Homemade Silencers Through Mass Form 1 Disapprovals - The Truth About Guns

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    Is the ATF Mass Disapproving Home Made Form 1 Suppressors?The Firearm Blog
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    Yup. Even if you manufacture the entire thing yourself. If you have a DLS 3d printer, the purchase of the powder to print a suppressor makes the powder a suppressor.

    And it's not even if you already have the parts. They're saying that they will not issue a form 1 for a whole can because EACH part is a suppressor. Then, you can't even make the part because if you have a form 1 in hand for a baffle, the piece of flat steel you're staring at on the bench is a suppressor. Therefore, you're a felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    Yup. Even if you manufacture the entire thing yourself. If you have a DLS 3d printer, the purchase of the powder to print a suppressor makes the powder a suppressor.

    And it's not even if you already have the parts. They're saying that they will not issue a form 1 for a whole can because EACH part is a suppressor. Then, you can't even make the part because if you have a form 1 in hand for a baffle, the piece of flat steel you're staring at on the bench is a suppressor. Therefore, you're a felon
    Damn. I was hoping my interpretation was incorrect.
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    Now, it sounds like the atf wants a full description of materials to be used, as well as the machining steps you're going to take. Here's the kicker, they also want a photo of the materials you intend to use.

    "Sure, mister dog murderer, I'll send you photos that contain items you determine to be NFA items, to obtain permission to make a NFA item."

    No fuckin' way I'm signing up for that.

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    I?d send them a picture of a doughnut and tell them that I plan to make a suppressor out of it.

    When they come to kick in my door and shoot my dog I?ll eat the illegal doughnut and make them prove in court that I ever actually had said doughnut in my possession before getting the tax stamp to legally own the doughnut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I?d send them a picture of a doughnut and tell them that I plan to make a suppressor out of it.

    When they come to kick in my door and shoot my dog I?ll eat the illegal doughnut and make them prove in court that I ever actually had said doughnut in my possession before getting the tax stamp to legally own the doughnut.
    So your saying I could make a suppressor out of a Zucchini and eat the evidence if needed.

    Cool, wonder how many rounds I could get out of a Zucchini before it got soft. I've heard size matters.
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