Mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket

[XJ]

[Chicago]less-than-average weekend[\Chicago]

[kidicarus13]

For example: my drivers license on my phone is now accepted as legal ID by some LE agencies in Colorado.

https://mycolorado.state.co.us/

You fell for that one? Sorry to hear.

[Martinjmpr]

I don't think we're going to see many super public calls for anti gun stuff. Don't get me wrong, they'll do it, but it won't be the number 1 thing we see on TV for weeks like it's been when these things happen in the past. Nothing mobilizes the right like huge anti gun pushes. The left is mobilized by abortion stuff now, which has much of the right quietly keeping their heads down. The left isn't going to want to give the right much reason to poke their heads-up again.

Agreed. The last thing in the world the Democrats want these days is for anyone to mention gun control. They know they're in for an ass kicking in November because if Biden, inflation, gas prices, etc. Throwing gun control into the mix would do nothing but guarantee that in the close districts the pro gun voters would come out of the woodwork and vote against democrats.

Might see some changes at the state level, given that New York is pretty much a democrat-controlled state. But then again, they already have pretty strict gun control laws in NY so it's hard to say what they could do that they haven't already done.

EDITED TO ADD: 23 years after Columbine, with VA Tech, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, the Pulse Nightclub, etc in the rear view, I think the political impact of a mass shooting is almost zero now. All it's going to do is reinforce whatever positions people already had. If they're anti gun, this isn't going to make them MORE anti gun and if they're pro gun, it isn't going to make them MORE pro gun.

People have already chosen sides and a mass killing isn't going to make them change.

[Martinjmpr]

Continuing my thought from above, it's kind of like the suicide bombings in the Intifada in Israel starting in the mid 1990's. The first few were spectacular and had all kinds of media attention, people talking about them, etc. They were front page news for days, even here in the US.

But after 15 or 20 or more, the "shock value" wore off and it was like "meh, another suicide bombing."

Humans can get used to a lot of awful things. Think about the stuff that happened during WWII: Entire blocks being burned up by incendiary bombs, V1 cruise missiles and V2 ballistic missiles hitting London on a daily basis. After the first few, the shock value wore off and it just became another thing to endure. I think the same thing is happening with these "mass shootings." The shock value is wearing off. By next month most people will have forgotten about this.

[eddiememphis]

By next month most people will have forgotten about this.

Probably correct.

The anti-gun crowd will have another incident to add to their count.

The "white supremacist" fear mongers will have one as well. The left blames the right, despite the asshole stating he is a leftist. The right just hides, never correctly pointing out choosing mass murder as a political statement is a mental health issue and no public policy can legislate away crazy.

Politicians calling for internet censorship have another arrow in their quiver. That is the one that that is most likely to affect everyone.

The link Rooski posted to the manifesto no longer works. So now you have to rely on others interpretations of it.

[Aloha_Shooter]

He's been planning in open on Discord since March? And they found all the posts within hours of the act but DIDN'T have him under active surveillance and stop him the moment he started moving?

Something smells.

[eddiememphis]

He's been planning in open on Discord since March? And they found all the posts within hours of the act but DIDN'T have him under active surveillance and stop him the moment he started moving?

Something smells.

Who would you suggest takes that action? Local, state, federal? Or perhaps a whole new branch of government, tasked with following Internet trolls around in case they act in an illegal manner? And where is that funding coming from?

We would need to live in a police state if everyone thats posts nonsensical garbage on the Internet would be placed under active surveillance.

[theGinsue]

I find it curious how they had so much information on him within such a short period of time; even stuff he posted using aliases - all before the police executed a warrant of his home.

Just curious.

[BPTactical]

I find it curious how they had so much information on him within such a short period of time; even stuff he posted using aliases - all before the police executed a warrant of his home.

Just curious.

Not to mention “Hate Crime” charges announced from the gitgo*


*granted he had some verbiage written on his rifle that leaned that direction but the statement was made virtually in seconds after the incident.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Who would you suggest takes that action? Local, state, federal? Or perhaps a whole new branch of government, tasked with following Internet trolls around in case they act in an illegal manner? And where is that funding coming from?

We would need to live in a police state if everyone thats posts nonsensical garbage on the Internet would be placed under active surveillance.

My point was that they apaprently already had him under active surveillance since they knew about him for months and knew he had posted plans on Discord -- whoever "they" is. I'd rather not have as much surveillance as we do in society today but if they DO have that kind of surveillance, they need to use it. This smells like Obama's "Fast and Furious" campaign -- knowingly creating a situation or letting it happen to create maximum publicity and sway public opinion toward the extremist measures they want to take anyway.