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Originally Posted by
hollohas
I hate to tell you, but if you have a DL and/or CCW you are already in the system.
And Oneguy67 posted here the Colorado Revised statute which says when LEOs can ask for ID and it also clearly says they cannot ask for SSN:
C.R.S. 16-3-103. Stopping of suspect:
(1) A peace officer may stop any person who he reasonably suspects is committing, has committed, or is about to commit a crime and may require him to give his name and address, identification if available, and an explanation of his actions. A peace officer shall not require any person who is stopped pursuant to this section to produce or divulge such person's social security number. The stopping shall not constitute an arrest.
I'm not saying the police should be able to ask anoyone for ID at anytime but they got a call about this guy and they went to check it out. No harm there. That's their job. I don't think open carrying a firearm gives anyone reason to believe you are about to commit a crime but you can bet the the police can/will use this statute as a basis to ask for your ID.
IMO open carry should be legal and a non-issue everywhere, but not giving an officer your ID when asked is just a shitty move for tin hat folks who think they will stay out of those darn police computers by refusing. You're in there already, help the good guys out. The police aren't out there to get you. The conversation in this situation would have been 2 minutes instead of 12 if he just gave his ID. Then these two officers could have gone on to something more productive. Anyone who is or personally knows any LEO knows that they ask for ID almost every time they make contact with someone on a call if they think they are breaking the law or not. You would be surprised how many bad guys they find that way.
The real problem here is not the police, it's that ordinary citizens think that open carry is a reason to call the police.
You do realize that there are 4th and 5th amendments to the US Constitution, right?
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