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    Injunction would have to come from the 10th, which smokes more cock than our Governor. So, resolution would have to come from SCOTUS, IF they accepted certiorari, and that would be ~3-6 years away.

    Just a FYI on what we will be looking at with any kind of AWB.

    Ironically, if one passes... maybe this is the one that should. A neutered AWB is almost a guarantee, SCOTUS will deny CERT.

    This pile of monkey poop, it is much, much more likely that SCOTUS would intervene. (and maybe the 10th would recognize that and proactively cut it down to prevent the precedence, which I've seen before).

    Anyway.... wish I had a crystal ball. I'd take the hit for 3-6 years if it guaranteed AWB's got shitcanned for the rest of our future.

    As a side note, someone needs to start making handguns with an internal 50+ round capacity. Just so they introduce legislation banning firearms that take brass cartridges.

    (PR57 has an internal 20 round, fed by strippers, just like Hunter) https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/pistols/pr57/

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    Not all handguns, according to the current bill.

    They define "GAS-OPERATED SEMIAUTOMATIC HANDGUN" as, among other things, A BLOWBACK-OPERATED SYSTEM THAT DIRECTLY UTILIZES THE EXPANDING GASSES OF THE IGNITED PROPELLANT POWDER ACTING ON THE CARTRIDGE CASE TO DRIVE THE BREECHBLOCK OR BREECH BOLT REARWARD.

    However, under exemptions is this- A SINGLE OR DOUBLE ACTION SEMIAUTOMATIC HANDGUN THAT USES RECOIL TO CYCLE THE ACTION OF THE HANDGUN.

    So this would seem to indicate a .380 or a Hi-Point will be banned but a Glock or 1911 will be exempt.

    I would love to see that cocksucker Sullivan try to explain that one. Since he didn't write the bill, I doubt he could. He just proposed what his keepers at Giffords and/or Everytown wrote for him.

    Due to ambiguous wording, the scope of restriction is open to interpretation. RMGO thinks it more expansive, and so does Senator Gonzales...

    "Semi-auto pistols which can be readily converted to accept magazines over 15-rounds are unlawful"
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Due to ambiguous wording, the scope of restriction is open to interpretation. RMGO thinks it more expansive, and so does Senator Gonzales...
    I am sure they will change it before the final bill. That is why I said as the bill is currently written.

    If that is the sticking point, they will exempt handguns to get the rifles passed. They will call it a compromise.

    Then next year, they'll go after pistols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    If that is the sticking point, they will exempt handguns to get the rifles passed.

    Even in this state, I never expected guns like the Remington 740/742/7400 series, Winchester 100 or Winchester 1907 .351 to be considered assault weapons. Most guns with mags intended to be clip loaded, like the SKS or FN49, are actually removable, so they would also be verboten.

    Except for the M1 Garand, can you think of a semiauto centerfire rifle that wouldn't be restricted? Of course, they will probably find a way to target those too, being a "weapon of war" and all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Even in this state, I never expected guns like the Remington 740/742/7400 series, Winchester 100 or Winchester 1907 .351 to be considered assault weapons. Most guns with mags intended to be clip loaded, like the SKS or FN49, are actually removable, so they would also be verboten.

    Except for the M1 Garand, can you think of a semiauto centerfire rifle that wouldn't be restricted? Of course, they will probably find a way to target those too, being a "weapon of war" and all...
    Browning BAR. Holds 4 rounds in a non-detachable magazine.

    The Henry lever action was used in the Civil War...

    Giffords has openly stated she will not stop until there are zero guns in America.

    Her organization has very deep pockets including government funding for "research". They and Everytown are the writers of these bills, not the idealists that make up the legislatures across America. You can bet that this exact bill will be proposed in 30 or 40 states over the next few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post


    Then next year, they'll go after pistols.
    Then ammunition. Ignorant bastards are more concerned about bowing to the demands of the Liberal Left to get re-elected by the clueless Dems in Colorado.
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    Passed committee three to two. No surprise.
    This is my home state and I am so saddened at what it has become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    I would think that a bill that effectively bans the sale/transfer of essentially every non-.22 detachable magazine semiauto firearm would be a slam dunk for an immediate injunction, but what do I know...
    And the Ruger 10/22 because this bill prohibits the transfer of that one as well as other two piece receiver 22s that I don't know about.
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    The 10/22 is a two-piece receiver? I was thinking more of the .22 AR clones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    The 10/22 is a two-piece receiver? I was thinking more of the .22 AR clones.
    Yep, it has an upper receiver assembly that is serialized pinned to a lower assembly that houses the trigger. Obviously they are targeting the AR platform, but a lot of firearms use two piece receivers.

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    UNLESS THE FIREARM HAS A SEPARATE UPPER AND LOWER RECEIVER
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