TSA pat-downs.

[Anton]

Anton, yes these people had Muslim names, but what if say they chose to use a Hindu name on fake IDs?

Then that at least adds the possibility that their fake IDs will be discovered and they will go straight to jail, interrupting whatever plot they may have been involved in.

Groping nuns and three year olds does absolutely nothing to add to our security. El Al's track record proves that profiling works and they don't even have to feel you up.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Anton, yes these people had Muslim names, but what if say they chose to use a Hindu name on fake IDs? Some of them could also pass as being from India vs. being Middle Eastern.

All asian look the same to you too I bet.

[Epyon]

I agree groping three year olds is disgusting, as for nuns depends on if the woman has a fetish for it or is a stripper.

I don't know much about El Al, guess I'll do some reading there. Also, fake IDs aren't always caught.

MB888 other way around, most white people can't tell us apart. Unless it involves blowing up another country, most born Americans don't even know much about geography and that's from personal experience.

[Anton]

I don't know much about El Al, guess I'll do some reading there. Also, fake IDs aren't always caught.

I didn't realize you were an expert on fake IDs. I'm thankful that you bring such amazing knowledge as 'Arabs look like Indians' and 'fake IDs aren't always caught' to the debate. You've really opened my mind.

[hollohas]

I fly every single week for work. Sure I have a choice not to fly...that same choice will cost me my job.

I couldn't care less if some a-hole behind a computer screen sees some black-and-white holloas junk. I couldn't care less if someone gives me a pat down...if they have good reason. That's the key to me. This is about our constitution. And since when is it ok to give unwarranted virtual strip searches of people without cause? What is this nation coming to? This is a major slippery slope and I believe it is in DIRECT violation of our great constitution and can't believe people are more upset about some radiation or someone seeing their boobies.

You do not give up your rights by buying a plane ticket. It is the Federal Government requiring and performing the body scans and pat downs...not a private company that requires it in order to use their services. Our own government continues to blatantly violate our constitutional rights.

It's not hard to imagine these same "precautions" can translate into searching our houses without warrants. Or that some terrorist will put a bomb up his ass and then they'll require full cavity searches to fly...'as a precaution people, why are you getting so upset? We're doing this to protect you.'

This is how it happens. We give up some of our hard fought freedoms so Uncle Sam can give us protection. A little more here and a little more there and we're all going to stand around and look at each other and ask "where'd it go."

Well, we gave it up so the government could protect us, don't you remember?

If you believe in your country, your constitution and what it means, this should outrage you even if you don't fly.

[Epyon]

Anton, any time! I'll totally make yours say McLovin' Jihad-sauce Windsor Helmsley III. (Of course I say it all in good fun.) We can run theories all day, but I'd say why not just let EVERYONE carry on board?

[Byte Stryke]

Anton, yes these people had Muslim names, but what if say they chose to use a Hindu name on fake IDs? Some of them could also pass as being from India vs. being Middle Eastern.

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[Anton]

Anton, any time! I'll totally make yours say McLovin' Jihad-sauce Windsor Helmsley III.

[hollohas]

Oh, and one more point. Sure you have a choice to not go through the body scanner or pat down and therefore not fly...but if you go to the airport, stand in line and then choose not to fly so you don't have to get a pat down...$11,000 dollar fine coming your way for not completing the security procedure. Let the government give you an unwarranted search or pay them $11,000...seems right to me.

[Bailey Guns]

Oh, for fuck's sake. Profiling extends a little further than just what someone looks like. Or their name. That's just a place to start...not the ending.